Block Swap, Need Advice

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  1. Drapes
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    Ill be putting in a short block this Sunday and I was wondering if there are any special or odd tools I will need to pick up besides the usual wrenches? Also does anyone have suggestions on what I should replace with the engine out?
    Here is My list
    1. Head Gaskets
    2. Intake and Exhaust Gasket
    3. Timing Belt

    If anyone wants to come out and help, I would really appreciate it. I'd like to only make one trip out to Morries Subaru.
    Thanks:)
     
  2. piddster
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    piddster Lone Wolf

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    Do you have the factory service manual? The headbolt torque sequence is quite different.
     
  3. curly2k3
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    make sure you have everything first, including tools... and a way for us to get it in/out
     
  4. Jackstand
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    I have a engine hoist if u need it
     
  5. driftin240
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    And ALL gaskets. Make sure the parts guys don't leave anything out...wink wink...:hsugh:
     
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    And i also have a bunch of air tools i can bring as well
     
  7. Drapes
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    I will have to pick up a service manual, dont have one. Does the service manual have all the torque specs?
    I DO have an engine hoist so that wont be needed but thanks. Air tools would help too.
     
  8. curly2k3
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    you can get them all electronically too
     
  9. 99Lashes RS
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    I'll be there ;)
     
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    Timing belt tensioner, spark plugs if they are due, idler pulley if it's making any noise.

    Where in Hastings are you? I might stop by.
     
  11. Drapes
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    1 mile south of town on hwy 61
     
  12. 99Lashes RS
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    Block swapping party!!! WOO!
     
  13. Drapes
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    I will be starting around noon on pulling the bad block. I was wondering if anyone had a sleeve to put the pistons in?
    Call me if you are coming out. I will be gone til around noon. # is (612-817-4073):)
     
  14. driftin240
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    You shouldn't be taking the pistons out....
     
  15. Drapes
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    The block that i bought has the pistons out.:ugh:
     
  16. piddster
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    DO you know which cylinder each piston goes back into? Kind of important. Also, stay away from the cheap piston ring compressors. They mar the deck surface too easily. Cast iron won't get all nicked up but aluminum does.
     
  17. Drapes
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    Isn't it Front
    2--l--1
    4--l--3
    tranny
    Firing order 1,3,2,4
     
  18. driftin240
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    Yeah, you got it.
     
  19. 99Lashes RS
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    Okay, we have everything unhooked from the engine and we have been working at lifting it out of the car for a little while now. We have since run out of ideas as to how we can separate the engine from the tranny and any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
     
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    readymix ...Lest ye be trod upon... Staff Member

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    I used a shovel last time. A pry bar works.
     
  21. 99Lashes RS
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    We've had two large pry bars on it and someone yanking from the front. Should we just keep working at it?

    Should we keep the engine and tranny level or should we have the engine hoist pulling on the engine, tipping it upwards as we are trying to separate the two?
     
  22. ruberdukwrx
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    Did you take the clutch fork out? That may be why it wont separate!
     
  23. 99Lashes RS
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    Where is that? How do you get it out?
     
  24. ruberdukwrx
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    it is on the top of the tranny it should be black there is a plug on the left side of the trans mission that you take out then you pull the pin that holds it in out . then take the fork out off the tranny and it should come apart. what I just said probably makes no sense , i am not good at explaining things!
     
  25. 99Lashes RS
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    I did understand that perfectly, believe it or not.. :)
     
  26. ruberdukwrx
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    Thats good! Good luck!
     
  27. Broc
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    you will need a bolt to screw in to the pin to get it out.
     
  28. ajwhip86
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    we got the pin out and the motor is out of the car.
     
  29. Broc
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    cool well good luck with the rest of it.