Cams??

Discussion in 'Modifications And Maintenance' started by Kevin, Apr 21, 2008.

  1. Kevin
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    Kevin Well-Known Member

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    anybody run aftermarket cams in a wrx?
    i am looking at possibly picking up the crower stage 2 cams, springs and retainers from MAP.

    anyone her have any experience with them?
    i am planning on going bigger turbo later on.
     
  2. Jackstand
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    What are you running on your car right now? For power mods that is
     
  3. dipp
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    im running the crower 272's and they work great but as far as your case get the turbo and the cams then tune it all at once or it would kind of be a waste.
     
  4. Kevin
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    right now i have
    intake
    3" turbo back
    750cc injectors
    very mild tune on e85
     
  5. Jackstand
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    Jackstand Well-Known Member

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    I would personally wait to but them until you do your whole build.
     
  6. w_o_t_boy
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    I think Sir Readymixalot has Crowers in his car.

    +1 It's a waste of money to get tuned twice. Also, installing a turbo is a helluva lot easier than cams, which is why most people get a turbo first.
     
  7. piddster
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    Just throwing in cams without a larger turbo is a waste. Cams will most likely open up the breathing up top, and without a turbo that can support a lot of flow in the same range, your power band will be all messed up.
     
  8. readymix
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    readymix ...Lest ye be trod upon... Staff Member

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    Yep. No point in getting cams for more upper midrange and top end if your TD04 peters out around the start of the effective RPM range. And definately no point to tuning for said cams without a turbo that makes power where the cams benefit.
     
  9. Kevin
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    thanks guys... this is kinda wht i thought... i guess i will save my money for a bigger turbo first... any suggestions on a decently cheap but good setup? i am looking for about 300whp... the only problem is i dont want to do my tranny lol i know at a certain power it is inevitable....
     
  10. w_o_t_boy
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    If you're running e85 you can probably get close to 300 whp with a vf39. You certainly don't need cams to make 300whp.

    A vf22 would probably work for you. I think you can get those for cheaper than a 16g.

    Check out this page:
    http://www.scoobytuner.com/tuning/?tSfID1=4&tuningID=43
     
  11. B-REX
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    I will pray for you my friend.. My stock tranny lasted about 4 months. Than I had to go to PPG. It's better to just pay for it once than for it to keep breaking. Better baby it!! And shift smooth. At the time I put down 278 hp.
     
  12. FuJi K
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    My EVO3-16G-8cm^2 gets me really close if not 300whp already with pump gas on my hybrid build. I pretty much have almost all bolt-ons except cams; Perring Big MAF, turboinlet, bigger TMIC, EVO3-16g-8cm, 4-1 headers, 3" TBE.

    If I where to have a RACE GAS MAP done w/ more boost I'd be close to 350whp.
     
  13. devildevil
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    i have the crower 272's, once i get tuned i'll let you know how they are or just come take you for a ride, but my heads are also fully done and ported.
     
  14. B-REX
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    Did you get it tuned yet???
     
  15. readymix
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    readymix ...Lest ye be trod upon... Staff Member

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    I have crower 272s. Too aggressive for a 16G/VF22 or the like. A 264 cam maybe, but honestly, the stock heads and cams likely support the power levels you wish to attain just fine. The amount of money and labor required to change them out will not benefit you much in the long run.
     
  16. Justin
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    check out GSC's cams. i hear promising things about them.