Colorado has some pretty vigorous smog laws & testing. How about Minnesota / Wisconsin? Just wondering what we'll be facing once we get settled in.
I used to do this too, my dads truck had a exhuast leak that he fixed with a beer can and some tie wire. It passed too!
Jesse did away with the emissions testing. My Legacy qualifies for UHEV status. Ultra high emissions vehicle.
I believe they will bring it back. Probably in 2011. If I remember correctly, they got rid of it because it was a huge waste of money since 99% of the cars on the road would pass. Eventually some politicians will come along and make themselves feel good by spending a billion dollars to make sure the other 1% will pass. Negligible improvement to the environment, but it's never about results with these people.
lets hope it doesn't come back. There are so many NEW cars!!!! And most of them are really nice at low emissions already.
Glad to see the Wisconsin testing is done far away from the area we are considering. My LGT would be an epic failure.
I hope they don't bring it back, smog testing in California was such a pain in the ass. Not to mention the added expense sucks
You'd be suprised what will pass, my old caprice with it's various problems always passed. And what friends and family members would do when they didn't pass was drive out of the 5 county metro area (only place that required testing) and bought tabs up at the cabin.
I guess I wouldn't worry about emissions, I would be more worried about the fact the T-Paw thought it would be a great idea to run a minimum 25% ethanol in 2011 or 2012. Say goodbye to any warranties and hello to retunes everywhere. Russ
No ****. In real terms, Ethanol is the ****tiest idea for energy out there. "Hey, let's burn our food, even though we have to burn so much of it prices will skyrocket!" Average corn future for the past 8 years: Uhg. I quit!
Once the technology has matured, corn will be one of many possible sources for ethanol production. I for one am all for it, and will run it whenver I can.
My biggest bitch is the govt. paying for 1 single dime of ethanol, ordering people to sell it at their gas stations, just basic interferance stuff like that.
My problem is that we are subsidizing our food for a fossil fuel (which, we all know, are on their way out). Food prices go up for everyone, emissions go up for everyone (we burn more gas, and the energy expended to create 1 gallon of ethanol is outrageous). In terms of economic and social impact, it is really a lose-lose unless you are in the corn business. But yes, it's a great fuel for making power Yeah, but get used to it. Fuel and energy subsidies have been around in most modern countries for a long, long time. Once we realize Ethanol is causing more harm then good, the subsidies will move to renewable energy, which will be a great thing.
Ethanol makes a better oxygenate than MTBE, that's about it. If one does their research, they realize we make (or loose) about 15% energy on corn for fuel, since the balance depends entirely on the per acre yeild of corn, which obviously ( at least to people who can think in a large scale) varies year by year and acre by acre. Guess what, the technology has matured. There have not been any advancements in corn ethanol production, and there are none in the pipeline. You can only get soo much from a bushel of corn, and you are not going to change that. End of story. BTW, each gallon of ethanol we produce uses over 4 gallons of clean ground water. That means the ethanol plant in Janesville that folded due to Verasun's fail would use over 400 million gallons of clean ground water a year, in an area that is stressed for groundwater already. Do the math. Maybe, just maybe they figure out cellulosic ethanol. I say maybe because it isn't even close to being on a production scale yet. The enzymes are very tricky and are not stable enough to use on a large scale. Anyways, what are they going to use for said ethanol? Grass clippings would be okay. Planting more crops for it is really bad though. Iowa has lost about half of it's topsoil in the last 100 years. For reference, to support our current fuel consumption with ethanol for the next 12 years, we would have to plant every acre with corn that isn't used for already for homes, commercial, industry, roads, etc. Considering you cannot get more than 400 gallons of ethanol from an acre of corn, that is a **** ton of land. You think the Minnesota River is nasty enough already? Damn, the beauty of lobbyists is fun, isn't it? Oh, and Nate, us using corn for fuel doesn't have a major effect on the majority of world starvation rates. THat has to more to do with their own government's policys than availibility, since we like to give it away. More famines have happened that way than enything else.
And don't forget, you lose 15-30% in fuel mileage, so our number of gallons used will go up by 15-30%. Then you also have to factor in that Obama just made the fuel standard for cars go way up, and we will be using a fuel that will drag mileage down, so our gov't is fighting itself and we are the victims. Russ
Yup, I'm with you there. Most starvation issues are due more to geopolitical issues (as well as poverty rates), not corn prices. Hell most of the countries with the highest starvation rates don't even eat corn (soybeans and other forms of grains). Your make a great point with the amount of clean water it takes to create a gallon of Ethanol. Clean water is quickly becoming a major world issue, and will most certainly be the most prominent health issue of the 21st century.
Ok, this thing is still somewhat related to Emissions testing, but let's keep politics out of it, please
The emission testing was a huge waste of money. Yearly tests for brand new vehicle makes no sense at all. Lots of salarys and benefits to pay for employees, buildings to maintain, and a whole lot more I'm sure. Not to mention for those of us who have been driving long enough remember how much of a cluster **** it was at the testing stations? There we go, back on topic.
