[YOUTUBE]<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/J7V1xYzSNd0&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en&feature=player_embedded&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/J7V1xYzSNd0&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en&feature=player_embedded&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>[/YOUTUBE] Don't know if it's a re-post, but it's good.
Classic, fun to watch. There's a few other gems out there too, but I'm not compelled to try and dig for them. The hill climb is well known. Look up Colin McRae's "lessons" if you haven't seen them before. There's a couple others kind of like this vid, but I couldn't really tell you what specifically to look for in a title name.
That was a cool vid. But the real thing is more fun. You guys need to move to nevada or northern cali. I lived by lake tahoe and there are literally thousands of miles of forest roads. I used to go out a couple times a week with buddies and session roads. Safe, fun, free...what more do you need?
you need to explore MN a bit more. Go up north and there's more dirt roads then you could imagine. Don't get me wrong, anywhere out west will hands down beat MN....but for the upper midwest Minnesota has a ton to offer.
actually the real thing is far better than messing around with buddies on gravel roads. once you're strapped into your H&N in that car the adrenaline just skyrockets. The whole competition aspect really changes the experience. Negotiating that time from MTC to ATC, waiting for your in time, hearing the countdown - there's really nothing like it. Press on, Carl RA #171
RALLY RALLY RALLY RALLY RALLY RALLY RALLY RALLY RALLY RALLY!!!1!1!one SteveDave, stop stealing my line!!!
Not really my cup of tea. I can see why you enjoy it though. Too many rules and regulations for me, it looks boring, I just wanna drive. We both do the same thing, you just have an audience. I like the open desolate roads and good company. We just do it for different reasons I guess.
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: trust me, far from it. there really aren't many rules and you can make it very simple by a) picking the right car, b) picking the right class, and c) doing it first for fun and second for competition. There is a lot of waiting involved but that's a given due to the logistics of running a race where you can't see the entire track. You can push the car and yourself so much faster in a sanctioned stage rally than when you're bombing a dirt road by yourself. The road is closed, you have a full arsenal of personal protective equipment (rollcage, HANS, helmet, 6 point harness, firesystem), and you know emergency measures are in place to quickly deal with accident situations. If you go out and roll the car when it's just you and a buddy, what happens then? That's why I enjoy what I do - I get to go as fast as possible, safely, legally and I get to do it in the company of some of the nicest people you'll ever meet. I'm not saying going out and driving some dirt roads isn't fun - it is and still is to me. I just get much more enjoyment out of the actual rally racing experience.
dude i want to RALLY RALLY!!!! just waiting on my winnign power ball ticket so i can quite my job and have a car to trash
that is the huge downside to sanctioned rallying... cost. it costs a lot. You can make it cost a ridiculous amount or you can be smart and do what utecht did (and what i may end up doing at some point, probably after i total this baby out) - ditch the fancy awd car and pick up something 2wd that is fun and has a lot of easy to source parts (even this still costs kind of a lot. but not as much as running a car where the rear axles are like $600 a piece lol)
:+1: for the hawkeye gettin some serious air and landing so gnarly! Both vids got my adrenaline pumpin and now I will DEFINITELY be at Dog Daze!!
You gave me and my friends a good chuckle. Going faster has nothing to do with having a sanctioned stage rally, emergency equipment, etc. It's all about how big your balls are and if you can drive well. You can die just as easily in a "rally car" as a stock STI mate. But hey, if all that stuff makes you feel safer, that's great. At any rate, I apologize for this thread hijack......back to the entertainment.
no. you can die a hell of a lot faster in a stock STi. especially when your big balls carry you right into a van full of children at high speed because you're driving fast on a public road.
First off posting about your illegal exploits is against site rules so be careful what you say. Second, I hope you don't do anything like that on roads that are used for stage rally, because that is a really quick way to piss off the locals and get the rally shut down for good. Third, the safety equipment isn't there for looks. If you think a stock STI is just as safe as a rally prepped car with a cage and all of the personal safety equipment you are dead wrong.
Your posts are decreasing in validity and common sense. If you truly believe that you can die as easily in a rally car with full safety equipment as you can in a street car, I think we can end our conversation. You just gave me and the entire rallying community (legitimate) a "good chuckle". I also got a "good chuckle" over the "big balls" comment. This is true to an extent but I'll leave it at that as I don't want to drag this thread too far into the mire with inane discussion on how your "big balls" make you such a fast driver. You seemed like a decent guy when I met you, hopefully this disagreement will not sully further meetings. We will have to agree to disagree. I do not care what you do so long as you do not give subaru drivers and the rallying community a bad name (in otherwords, don"t be stupid about it. I'm sure you aren't but when you like to reference "big balls" I always have my doubts )
It doesn't matter what sport you are in, it is ALWAYS more exciting when it counts. Sure, playing that pickup game at the local outdoor rink is fun but it was never even close to the same as that big game with the rival when everybody was watching. From what I've seen through the years in any kind of risk activity, the bigger the "balls" you need, that larger insurance policy you need, if you live. When you involve other people, you start to talk about a liability that your insurance cannot and will not cover, not including the jail time. Be gratefull you have a safe car...
apparently just as safe as a caged car with other equipment... because it isn't functional, it's purely psychological
For the record: 1. I came from the Cali desert, understand things are different there. 2. Threats are infractions, whether your a moderator or not, heed your own advice. 3. I'm 30, and don't appreciatie your rude comments that sow discord. 4. Please watch this dirtyimpreza video, it will help you see what I'm talking about. It's clear that you may not fully understand what I mean by backroad driving and such. It's safe and fun... This is where I lived.[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziK5Q7sAVzk[/youtube] 5. Don't blindly stereotype me like some of those fools you hear about on the news that are streetracing and such, because I'm not one of them. 6. I went to school for mechanical engineering so I hope my IQ is more than 16.
yeah what happened? A video thread turns into a debate? Everyone has their own perception of what is safe. As Carl said, it's better to agree to disagree on this one. Personally I understand why some people think its safe simply because they are out in middle of the desert or hitting the dirt roads in the mountains of western states. I felt the same way for years...until I placed by butt in a rally car and actually witnessed first hand the difference. I used (still am sometimes) the guy that sees a long dirt road and my heart starts pumping, palms get sweaty, and the gas pedal disappears into the floor board. However, I now know no matter how good of a driver I am, or how safe my Subaru is...that's it's not nearly as safe as a rally car. I've seen first hand how quick the perfect day, the perfect maneuver, the perfect slide around a corner can turn to ****...in a blink of an eye. Street cars are not designed to protect their passengers when sliding into a tree at 70mph whereas a rally car is. Before someone says something real stupid let's great this thread back on topic.
I'm from the Southern California desert region and I'll tell you right now that you're an idiot. You're 30? Really? I'm 30, and I've got a much thicker skin and open mind. You and your buds ****ing around in the dirt in unsanctioned hooning is nothing like what sanctioned competition rally drivers do. This coming from someone that has never stepped foot in a fully prepped stage rally car. We do the Ice Races every winter, it's the exact same thing as what you're talking about with the desert only in a completely opposite climate. Yeah there's someone with a stopwatch and a start/finish line, but in the end you aren't really competing, you're just goofing off in low traction environments with your car. And as a mechanical engineer, you should understand that if you take a road car and put a multipoint cage in it, with fixed head and neck restraints, wearing helmets, and all the other safety related stuff, you are far more safe doing 100+ on dirt through a forest than you are in a street car with standard safety equipment. Your B pillars and airbags and 3point belts aren't going to save you in a 100mph rollover into some trees. Also, as someone who is from California, drop the California attitude. It's a state, a failing one at best, it doesn't make you super cool or unique. Stop using it as a status symbol.
except at the ice races you can't go nearly as fast as you can in the desert and the traction is so much less that it makes it very difficult to roll the car - you could still do it I'm sure but you're really have to be trying (I'd also like to point out that the video in the OP was entirely about "boring" rally)
It's people like you that give people like me job security. QFT I'll agree with this up to a point. Energy is energy, and a cage will only protect you so much. Just look at Mark Lovell and Roger Freeman a few years back. A rally car is certainly safer than a street car, but even they have their limits.
No doubt, I'd never be dumb enough to say because you have a cage you are automatically safe. Safer yes, but not safe...I have the Lovell & Freeman sticker on my car...I remember.
travis pastrana, rally colorado (2005?) Jari-Matti Latvala, rally portugal 2009 those are two off the top of my head that clearly show the importance of proper safety equipment (pastrana could have used a window net though...)
