need help! shifting problem

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    hi guys!! sometimes when i shift to 4 th gear...some sound came like the grindin sound from the shifter!! dont know how to discribe the sound..just like" ca laaa" ...i got my car used, and it has a short shifter and i dont know which brand tho...is it the problem of my transmission or just the short shifter??? THX for the help!
     
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    How many miles are on your car??
     
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    just turned 98k
     
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    Again.... Uncle scotty's cocktail (search that in nasioc) should cure this. It is a tranny issue, if you shift slow enough to should be able to avoid it grinding, when you go to shift into 4th don't push it in, just kind of preload it like you want it to go in, but not enough to make it grind, and the synchros will slip it into gear without grinding.
     
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    yea it happens only when i try to shift fast!!! but when its slow, it doesnt grind!
     
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    Welcome to the world of the Subaru 5MT. I've been dealing with it for a couple years now. If you let the syncros do their job, they won't grind. At the same time, they don't like shifting too fast.
     
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    I just went through that with my car! Took it down to the dealership and they said that they couldn't get it the car to do it! So i said to hell with it i will just shift a little slower and if i have to shift fast i will just cringe for a second and deal with it
     
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    what is syncros? is it transmission oil?
     
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    Synchros are the things inside your transmission that allow you to change gears. the peices that lock into place to make it possible. and those are what are grinding.


    some people swear by the Scotty's cocktail, but I've found something at least as good, and cheaper. It's called Rislone Engine Treatment, use about a half a quart of this instead of a half a quart of gear oil will do wonders. the '94 legacy that we bought last year wouldn't go into second gear, at all. fresh, generic gear oil, and a half quart of rislone, let it sit overnight, and it works as good as new now!

    at the very least, some fresh gear oil will help.
     
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    as stated! uncle scotty's cocktail! will do the trick

    consist of 1qt of redline shock proof, 1 qt of pennzoil syncromesh, 2 qts of castrol hyper C. best tranny fluid til this date!
     
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    I agree at very least fresh oil will help, personally I'd still use scottys cocktail, but I won't discount chux knowledge.
     
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    im still not sold on this idea. I mean how can somone just throw a bunch of these together and prove that it works... Somone please convice me otherwise... I just dont trust some guys concauction..
     
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    All I can say it works for lots and lots of people that have tried it, to date I have yet to see anyone prove that is doesn't work. (not saying there isn't statements to that effect, I just haven't seen them)I trust a senor member of nasioc, was has a great mechanical background. I trust the numbers of people out there running the mix, there is a bunch of background on nasioc, on hundreds of cars. For me I have accepted that to be good enough for me. He talks about why he came up with this certain mix in the thread, it sounded reasonable to me. In some aspects it may be a bandaide for a car's tranny that already has issues, so it may just be delaying the inevitable, but my car seems to really like it.


    As with anything, I take a little bit in from every angle and then I make a choice, somewhere along the line you probably have to take a little leap of faith in someone, lets just hope the judgement you make of those people are correct. I feel confident anyway put, my tranny is still better off than it was before when it would grind on occasion.


    Again at very least any oil change should help search nasioc for the grind between 3rd and 4th, you'll find it's fairly common to see on WRXs with higher mileage on the tranny fluid, and I've seen 2 routes for fixes, changing fluid or tranny rebuilds, not everyone changed teh fluid before the replaced the tranny parts, not all cars that changed fluids magically got 100% better, but you'll see most of them did get better after a change, I don't recall anything anywhere where anyone said it got worse, I may have not happend across it.

    I took the leap and I'm happy with it.
     
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    well, i've been running it in my RS for the past 10K plus miles and it's proven to work very well compare to what ever was in my tranny before. shifts are very smooth, first gear is very smooth, just everything is so much smoother. Can't say how long it took him to figure out the cocktail or how he figured it out but i am sold!
     
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    I'm not sold on the cocktail either, but I've never personally used it.

    I have, however, seen Rislone completely eliminate grinding in 4 of 4 subaru tranny's. and save the legacy tranny.
     
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    yea..so every how miles should i change the tansmission oil?
     
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    does the car happen be black, leather seats, have greddy gauges and a bunch of sti exterior parts?
     
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    yea man ..with yellow tinted fog light....u saw me around?
     
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    no... but lets just say i know the previous owner...
     
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    oic..that could be it,but first i bought, there were any sti stuff tho
     
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    LOL :laugh:
     
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    i'm pretty sure its the one the guys i know had. there is only one wrx in mn with a V2 sti front lip, and only one black one with black heated leather seats and pretty sure it was one of the only ones with greddy gauges on the A-pillar. i'm guessing you got it at the very end of june or beginning of july?

    if you have any questions about it, i can probably answer them for you. i don't think the previous owner is on here.
     
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    yea man.,..them im pretty sure that the car ur talkin about...lol
    is there any major problem on that car..like do i have to do the timeing belt change soon?>
     
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    i dont' think so. i think he did all the 90k mile maintanence and just put royal purple tranny fluid in before he had traded it in. he wasn't planning on selling it but he got a new job so he got rid of it and got a new car.

    do you have any pics of it now? i'd liek to see how it looks now.

    back to the topic of shifting problem, the short throw in it is a moddified sti short throw that has been hacked off and rethreaded so that it has the shortest throw of any car i have ever driven. with that said its gonna take a lot more effort to get it from gear to gear because the lever arm is so short. make sure you are engaging the clutch all the way when shifting too that might help.

    how does it drive? i remember it being pretty quick. i think he might have left some goodies on there if i remember correctly, if you want i might be able to get a list from him of all the parts.
     
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    hey sup? yea i had taken some pix of it, but dont know how to post it up or i can send them to u, just let u know, i put HKS BOV,HKS downpipe and ebays exhaust, thats all the stuffs i have put on for now....
    do u think ur friend had the belt changed recently, cuz u know the car is kinda high milege...anyways thx for the help!!

    it would be cool if u can list me the stuffs it has on ...cuz i might modify some other parts of the car..
     
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    ok here's all the parts i left on the car when i traded it in.

    godspeed uppipe
    samco recirc hose
    sti modified short throw
    04 sti struts, springs, and tophats
    greddy egt and boost gauge (egt is tapped into uppipe)
    goodrich stainless steel brake lines
    hawk hps brake pads swapped at 80k front, 85k rear
    motul RBF500 brake fluid
    royal purple in tranny and differential @90k (coolant flushed at the same time)

    sti v2 front lip
    jdm sti hood scoop
    limited wrx grill

    i never changed any of the belts/alternator or anything like that and i had owned the car since 40k. The only issue i did have was i had the sincro's and bearings replaced in the transmission at abou 46k and it was covered under my extended warranty and i never had any problems with the transmission from that point on. the only problem with the transmission that i had it fixed for was that above about 60 mph it was making a really high pitched wherring noise.
     
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    oic...thx for the listing...so from what u said, the transmission should have no problems or noises right?
     
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    nope the tranny was fine when i traded it in. it could just be the awd noises or the turbo that is sounding funny when shifting hard.