so question about this thing... do you have to leave it plugged in at all times? or basically just plug in, switch map, unplug?
I think you want the new functionality like horsepower readings and other stuff, you'll probably want to plug it in for that. But if you just want to switch maps, plug it in -> switch -> uplug.
................. i mean, lets say you threw in a pro tune map or whatever its called, then you wanted to use the launch control would you have to have the tuner write a realtime map, how would you change the rpm then too?
You just switch to the realtime map that has the launch control. There will probably be two different maps for each "stage" one with launch control, and one without. The RPM will be set by the person who makes the map. Either cobb, a cobb protuner, or the street tuner. That would be my guess anyways.
that makes sense... just dont understand why it would only be available w/ realtime maps when they have what 7-9 tables and the base maps have 20-30 tables? just goign by what i've read..
Because it will be easier to turn on and off. I am guessing that you don't want launch control turned on all the time, so with a realtime map it only takes a couple of seconds to change those. You could get a base map made that will have the lauch control properties built into it, but to turn it off you would need to reflash a base map. That would end up being alot of time and ecu flashes. Russ
I'm still pretty skeptical about this "launch control" thing. Isn't launch control like traction control where it limits power output based on wheel spin? Considering my car has a clutch pedal and the wheel speed sensors aren't connected to my ECU, the best you could do is make the engine's torque curve more suited to launches.
Oh, and they also talk about anti-lag which is great if you have a WRC team and all the extra turbos and exhaust manifolds you want, but according to this web site, its not really a good idea to use with your TD04. I think COBB has been developing this stuff for use on its own race cars. "A quick rise of the turbocharger's temperature (which jumps from ~800°C to the 1100°C+ region) whenever the system is activated" "A huge stress on the exhaust manifold and pipes (mounted on a street car a bang-bang system would destroy the exhaust system within 50-100 km)"
In traction limited cars sometimes... Like in the new MS3. Its usually called "traction control" or something similar tho (I think acura's version is "tcs" or something similar). But this application of "launch control" is so you can build boost off the line. Try it. Clutch in, rev, and watch the boost gauge.
Yeah, the "launch control" they implemented or are attempting to implement is just a secondary rev limiter. It just puts a load on the motor so you can build 15+ psi of boost while standing still. The UTEC has had it impleneted for quite some time. Anti-Lag will be a toy... anyone that tries it on a street prepared car is looking for trouble.
I think it's fantastic they're adding an ALS option to the AP, imagine all the idiots that are going to blow their exhaust clean off their car with it :laugh: I pre-ordered my AP locally last week. I was about to go buy the old one but then I saw "discontinued" on their website so I had to go poking around to find that NASIOC thread. Picked up a catless UP/DP from them at the same time, should be here this week and in this weekend. Unfortunately not in time for the Subaru Challenge at Texas Motor Speedway on Saturday. FWIW I had ALS on my last car. The E6K had it as an option and utilized it similar to what the new AP will do. I enabled it a few times just to see what it would do. In that car it made me 200% more likely to break drivetrain components with the existing low-end torque + instant boost, even if only 5 pounds. If you plan to use the ALS you're going to need to build up your exhaust system to handle it. I'd also buy a spare gasket set to have handy
