New Clutch Time...

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    So, 2000 Legacy L, N/A, 196K. Clutch is starting to let go if I stand on the gas in 4th or 5th, time to replace it.

    So, here are my questions:

    1. Engine forward or transmission backward to open it up for the replacement? (I don't have a lift or hoist, so I'm thinking transmission moved back or maybe straightup removed.)
    2. How long does this take a capable home-garage-mechanic? (Did the full head gasket replacement a couple years ago, I can hold my own.)
    3. Possibly most importantly... Is there a way to diagnose if I'll need to replace the flywheel before I actually open it up and incapacitate the car?
    4. And just for the hell of it, any recommendations of clutch kit/manufacturer for a daily driver boring stock Legacy?
    Thanks folks!
     
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    I'd put in a stock clutch if they go 200k...
     
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    I should also say that I don't know if this is the OEM clutch. I've had the car since 142k and the previous (original) owner never mentioned having the clutch done. I think it's OEM, but I don't know.

    I'm the most interested in "While you've got it open, look out for this" and "You absolutely will / probably won't need a flywheel" type advice, so lay it on me! Thanks in advance.
     
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    See which exedy clutch u need then check amazon.
     
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    You will have to either replace or re-surface the flywheel. I bought a clutch, flywheel and throw-out bearing.
     
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    This. Exedy is more or less OEM.
     
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    While you are in there... if it is an hydraulic clutch, replace/flush/bleed that circuit. Check the hose too, for ballooning/weakness. If it's a cable clutch, disregard.
     
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    I'm also leery of clutch dampers/delay valves given recent experience. Delete if found IMO.
     
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    Does anybody know if using different brands of clutch kit and flywheel could cause trouble? Assuming I'm going all OEM replacement grade parts, no performance stuff.

    For example, Exedy KSB04 OEM Replacement clutch kit is said to fit the car, if I pair that with the AC Delco flywheel instead of the Exedy flywheel to save $50, does that pose any issue?
     
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    exedy makes the stock clutch i believe. i wouldnt think there would be any issue using a AC delco flywheel. also think about replacing the throwout bearing and pilot bearing. i did a clutch not to long ago, car had 217,xxx on it and the flywheel just needed a resurface. (this was a civic however).
     
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    Any recommendations of who does flywheel resurfacing?
     
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    Never done a clutch before, so I have to ask, what are those respective components? I'm assuming they're the springs in the clutch disk and something with the slave cylinder?
     
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    i work at a honda dealer and we send ours to NAPA. or ive heard good things about headwerks in bloomingotn.
     
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    It's a little nanny valve somewhere between the clutch master and slave. The stated purpose is to smooth out movement of the hydraulic fluid if/when you pop the clutch in an effort to reduce shock load on the drivetrain. I believe it to be one of the reasons people feel engagement moving around or uneven feedback from the clutch pedal. Mine failed catastrophically for seemingly no reason and left me stranded. NF Performance deleted it and all was well, Clutch pedal feel is much improved with consistent feedback, not too different from cable operated clutches of yore:

    http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/has-anyone-popped-clutch-master-cylinderi-200764.html

    I researched CDV's quite a bit before giving the green light to delete. They have a reputation for eating aftermarket clutches while offering little to no benefit over not having one at all.