Question about shocks

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    This might be a stupid question. I heard somewhere( to be honest i dont remember where) that there are shocks that work with stock struts. You have to cut your struts in half an insert them inside. I have a set of stock struts and was thinking if i could mod them this way. Help me figure out what the hell i am thinking about. I really hope i am not pulling this out of my arss. Maybe it was a dream or something. :ugh:

    Thanks, Taras
     
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    Yeah, thanks a lot! How much do these things cost? are they good at all?
     
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    Yeah, they're good. I think a few people on the site here are running them. I'm not sure what the price is but I don't think it's bad, there's just more work to install them.
     
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    I run these on my car for AutoX, as do many others. Cost is about $150-$180 per corner, depending on where you shop. Since they're adjustable, they're good for springs from stock to about 550#. One of the local AutoXers has 600# springs in his car and thinks that he's just gone past the upper limit of what they'll handle.

    Stuart.
     
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    That would be cool if people who run them could chip in. I am a little tired of my Tein Basics. Way too bouncy on a highway. I was thinking KYB AGX with prodrives but thats will run me like $700 with springs at least. And i already have stock struts sitting my storage. Are these inserts damping adjustable?
     
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    Nice. Will they be better/cheaper way to go than AGX+prodrive?
     
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    Stooo answered most of your questions there. But they're not going to end up being cheaper than AGX, especially since you'd need to buy springs either way.

    They're both adjustable, AGX and Koni, the difference between the two is that AGX has either 4 or 8 settings, and the Konis are infinite. If that makes a difference for you, then Koni may be the way to go. Otherwise, if you're just going to stick with one setting, then AGX are fine.
     
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    Great, Thanks so much for explaining this to me.
     
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    yeah it looks like AGX is like 50 dollars cheaper. But AGX is not a strut its a shock, right? so i will need to buy extra part to fit it in? Sorry for my terrible noobness.
     
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    AGX is a full strut assembly. Just the Koni inserts require you to use your stock strut bodies.
     
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    No clue, since I've never cared to price up an AGX/Prodrive combo.

    I can tell you that changing the damping (say it with me folks, "the word is not 'dampening', because these are dampers not dampeners") is something you can really feel from the driver's seat. The downside to the Konis is that the adjuster is on top, so while changing the fronts is no trouble at all, you have to unhook the back seats to get to the rears. Unless you've got a wagon, then it's dead easy, too. My rears were set to full stiff by the previous owner, and I have never adjusted them myself. Maybe that's why I can't catch up with Larry B :(

    As has already been mentioned, the Konis are infinitely adjustable between their full soft and full stiff settings. There's no clicking. Think of them as analogue, versus the digital adjustment of the AGX offering.

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    thats very interesting. So do you think i will have less bounciness with AGX's+ prodrives compared to my tien basics? How much am a really looking at all together for AGX+ prodrive combo? Thanks a lot Stuart.
     
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    ^Stoooo how do you adjust yours wrench or allen key and is it right at the top?
     
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    chuanpreza has some in his 02WRX.. I installed them... pretty straight forward and took maybe 15min each per shock extra once you got going... just dont torque the top nut too much... they arent too strong on the adjuster thread.. didnt know I did that till a week later when doing some other install work when i spotted a leaking strut.. well I believed it was my fault so I replaced it at my cost for him... since then he hasnt had one complaint...
     
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    will they last longer than the Basics or the stock struts? Any good place you know where i can get good price on them?
     
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    do pigs fly?? does pamela anderson hide the sausage well??? did anna nicole smith really marry for love and die of heartbreak??? does WMC restore cars to better than original??


    Heck these are questions that can be answered either yes or no... kinda like yours!! ;)
     
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    There's a little nubbin of an adjuster that sticks up from the top of the insert, right through where the center plastic cover is on the stock strut tops. Koni has a plastic knob that they send out with every set of dampers they sell that fits over the nubbin, so it's only on there while you're making adjustments. You could also use pliers if needs be, but it's not as elegant.

    Stuart.