well sense i screwed up the one of my heads and it looking like it will be while till i get it all done anyway, i started thinking. i was going to build supports for the truck, and underbody for the chassis anyway aswell as foam will the unibody main runners, i might aswell just say screw it and make a roll cage for it. i have never had a roll cage on a street car and wondering is it a pain in the a$$ or a nice chassis stiffner and safety precaution?
If you have a roll cage, you should be wearing a helmet. Most people don't want to DD their car with a helmet on.
true but have you seen the cusco one? they look like they are completely out of all head hitting areas, idk
I have a Cusco 6 point in my STi, the lack of sun visors is the biggest problem, also blocks access to the fuses. And true I don't DD my STi, but for short trips its no biggie.
they are full cages just not as much behind the seat bracing and lower bracing by the doors which i would add the lower bracing and cross brace the roof better aswell as the trunk bracing. im making a under body brace for the engine bay aswell forsure.
cant use the sun visors? as for the fuses, i can make a bolt off section there if i had to. its just an idea guys, i dont have to do it if its going to suck. also this car is basically a play toy. i got duramax for a everyday driver too.
i see. ya well im just thinking outloud. i always have alot of ideas bouncing around in my head, just never enough time to work on them all
ya im pretty sure when im all done it will be a rallycross and autocross with some street driving too.
Cusco makes two types of "Cage" cusco's "Cage" is a style item and nothing more. No cross beams, no door bars, and zero triangulation means it'll fold up like a paper cup in a roll over, and just add extra things to hit your head on. The "Safety 21" is better, but still lacks dash cross bars, seat back bars, and is entirely bolt in. If you want a cage to actually keep you safe, look to ones that actually carry certifications from racing governing bodies. SCCA club racing will probably be lowest rating.
My opinion... cages in street cars SUCK!!! Nearly impossible to build them with the tubes far enough away that you won't hit your head on it regularly. If you want to stiffen up the chassis, just do subframe connectors and braces, maybe add a hd brace along the floor or something. But a cage will drive you bat **** crazy in little time. The only way I can think of to build it and not be totally intrusive ( I build cages for anything and everything if someone pays me $$$) is to cut the b pillar up so the main hoop can sit IN the original b pillar, then cut the roof bracing and lay the front laterals in there, door bars would have to be so low that they'd hardly do anything or higher and make getting in and out a pita. It can be done, but not easy. If you KNOW what you're doing with a bender (i.e. have built a couple hundred cages) you can maybe get everything tight enough to be out of the way, but if you have to pay someone to do it, I don't think you'd like the price tag...
ok well then i guess ill just so subframe bracing from the sounds of it. ya i dont want it to be a pain in the ass for everyday driving so
IMO You should look at the various bushings and subframe lockdown bolts and start with that and see if it achieves the lvl of stablity you are looking for as all of that stuff goes a long ways.
ya lol already planned on doing alot of it, and foam filling when done. learned that racing sleds, lots of strength adding, very little weight
