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    I rock the 680i sli with a e6600 and a 8800gt. That mobo is a beast, all im saying. With any mobo u get definitly update to the latest bios and chipset drivers. All the evega/bfg/xfx etc... nvidia chipset mobos are actually made by Foxconn with the 2nd party badge on em.
     
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    meh....any socket 775 cooling unit will work. They are anywhere between 15 and 60 bucks at microcenter
     
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    hey tom..have you ever considered getting into the IT field? im just sayin..i can hook you up :p
     
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    well keep in mind that I have to buy a power supply and such... maybe a new case.. unless I can fit in the new board in my mini case.

    i have a little bit I can throw in for that.

    so I have about 350 I can spend in reality to get a cpu / main / powersupply

    the rest of the stuff I should have should fly with the upgrades since its less then a year or so old.

    I kind of like the socket 775's
    but I don't really know all the differences anymore between core 2 duo / quad core bla bla bla
     
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    was more of a joke.
     
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    I'm asuming whatever I get now should in theory blow what I had out of the water..
     
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    ^lol okay Gotcha :laugh: Interwebs are hard to read humor
     
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    ring ring
     
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    Dont worry bout the differences between the core 2 and core quad (Same architecture). Quad is basically 2 core 2s slapped together with a bus for threading. With a core 2 you'd be set, quads are pretty much overkill at the moment. AMD is slacking behind intel....i wouldnt even consider buying one.

    You wont need anything goliath for a psu, unless you throw in a huge ass graphics card.....if you go that route pay close attention to how many +12v rails are on the psu and combined amps on the rails. I hate it when people undervoltage their gpus.
    Get your current psu checked out b4 getting a new one tho.
     
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    oh I plan to....
    im pretty positive its the powersupply..

    If I can rig up a faster cpu and sell off the mainboard and cpu I have now (if its power supply alone... ill do it.

    mainly because im not a fan of amd stuff... and I would prefer to get back into intel.

    I think we looked into my chip and it appears its a single core.
    if I can move into a core 2 duo, i'll be much happier in the long run.

    I also don't need 50x usb ports and crap, so that should cut down on large knar knar boards that I don't need...

    so basically im looking for a new cpu / board that supports 775 all the rest i'm re-using because its new and fast enough..... its just finding a system that will technically be better then what im currently running.
     
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    ^^Too many options. lol
     
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    I'm bored at work so i'll just keep posting up some stuffies for you
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    Since your rocking with the nvidia gpu i would get a nvidia chipset mobo. This way you can use nvidia control panel w/ system tools. Makes updating bios & overclocking gpus much much easier.

    Setup 1:
    -mobo
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130080R
    MSI makes quality, reliable mobos.
    Price/performance
    -cpu
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115036
    Why I would buy it:
    *45nm arcitecture (Uses less energy than 65nm=produces less heat=great overclocking potential)
    *Comes stock with 1333mhz fsb....Quick.... Even greater overclocking potential if it has an unlocked multiplier.
    *6mb cache (Basically "Onboard" memory for your cpu. The more for this gen. of intel the better it performs....6mb is more than enough :yumyum:)

    Setup 2:
    -mobo
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131232
    *I've heard many good things about this one.

    -Cpu
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115132
    Why I would buy it:
    *Better price/performance that above cpu.
     
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    A fine point here, and I haven't really paid enough attention since last year, so this problem may be mitigated to some degree. However:

    In general, at the point we're at today, reducing the fab size actually increases power consumption and heat. The problem is that the conductive pathways are so physically small that they provide a significant resistance to the flow of electricity. This then creates excess heat and consumes more power. The problem's compounded by the size more because the remaining material is too small to be as effective at dissipating the excess heat.
     
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    Any of those would be great. Don't worry bout open box, either. I totally got you on any hardware you need (piles of the stuff).

    One CPU said something about a combo deal with an ASUS mobo. Check it out.

    I totally agree on the Core2 Duo vs. Quad. 2 cores is plenty for a good while in the PC market. That 6MB L2 is crazy!
     
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    ^I would definitly get that 6mb l2 wolfy. SO awesome!!

    I'm going to read up about thermal dissipation within the cpu on these new 45nm and 65nm. I've always heard they run cooler, but what your saying makes sense. My initial guess is that the new Hi-K material dissipates heat more efficiently then the material in the 65nm's. I'll get back to ya.....
     
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    My last intense research on the issue was a year and a half ago, so like I said they may have mitigated it by now.

    It's a wall we're running up against. Kinda neat to be here to watch us plow our engineering ingenuity (or that of the Japanese anyway) through these amazing obstacles of physics.
     
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    Cool. They're making progress. ;)

    Oh, and Tom's Hardware FTMFW. Been reading them since day 1. Still got an original Celeron 300A OC'd to 450 that I built in 99 based on their advice (actually made an entire business out of selling OC'd 300A's out of Wayzata back then).
     
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    ^ +1000000
     
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    [Still got an original Celeron 300A OC'd to 450 that I built in 99 based on their advice (actually made an entire business out of selling OC'd 300A's out of Wayzata back then).[/QUOTE]

    Thats impressive. :yumyum:
     
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    Abit BH6 + Celeron 300A @ 450MHz. I sold it to a customer in 99 for upwards of $2k. Last year he said he was going to pitch it, so I took it back. A little pencil eraser on the contacts and she's been rock solid. Was running 24/7 as my IPCop (google it) firewall for nearly a year.

    If it wasn't so stripped down at the moment I woulda booted her up to show the 450MHz. :biggrin:

    It was one of the very first AGP boards. My first attempt at compiling a custom *nix kernel trying to get the AGP working with X Windows. Fail.
     
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    Darn, thats such a nice computer for "back in the day". So does that IPCop only work for Linux?? Its sounds really interesting/cool....I have never heard of doing such a thing.
     
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    It is linux. It's a custom built Linux distribution.

    Try it!! Seriously. It's awesome. If you understand networking to even a mediocre degree (do you know what an IP address it?) you should play with it.

    Absolutely no Linux experience required. You can configure everything through a decent web interface.

    Web cache is awesome! Plus, I run public servers (private FTP on a 1TB RAID ftw - haz lotz of softwarez), so a firewall is a must. Also, I serve a wireless access point to all the tenants in the apt. bldg. (Linksys WRT54GL + DD-WRT).

    Actually, this 300A is looking for a decent home - it's a prime IPCop box. I'll even load it up with RAM, 4 100Mbit 3Com "Corkscrew" NIC's, cheap AGP vid card, and probably a small HD drive (I assume I have a working or 8 or 10 GB around). Free if you want it.
     
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    Let me read up on it. Initially, I dont think that i would have much use for it. If i were on a college campus or apartment building that would be different.
     
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    well gents .. I think thats the route im going to go :)

    MSI P6N Diamond LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard

    Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Wolfdale 3.16GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor


    that looks like it will do everything I want it to, and that board will support anything if I want to upgrade to quad in the future.
     
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    Nice setup. Don't forget to save $$ for a PSU. :)

    Feel free to get a hold of me if you want any assistance with install or need mounting hardware, whatever.
     
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    im looking to see what kind of psu is needed
     
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    at micro I found
    Intel® Boxed Core 2 Duo Processor E8400 - 159.99
     
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    Nice!! :laugh:

    Personally, I cheap out on the case a lot. And if I don't I still buy a plainer looking Antec or something.

    Definitely going to make a nice system though!

    Now you just gotta wait for Step #5 and the tracking number. :laugh:
     
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    I loved this review of the mainboard....

    "Cons: when i put in my pentium d 2.8 it got hot as hell but i did not even get to bios and 1 of the chips just above the cpu socket burst into flames i had to unplug it and putit out with my sock hell probaly f'd now cause im not sure if i buy a new pricessor will help it"
     
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    ^^ LMFAO!!!

    Very nice system dude! It will make you happy :yumyum:
     
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    soooo the mainboard is apperently sold out / out of stock.
    grrr for looking at a new mainboards.
     
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    anyone wanna help find the best board for about 99 - 120.00 supporting the 775 socket on new egg :(
     
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    well i can spend about 110 on a mainboard...
    I dont need a whole crapload of stuff on the thing. but im gonna run the 3.1 core 2 duo, would be nice to find something that will accept a quad core and such when that comes out and I decide to move up.

    i dont need 6 pci express slots :p
     
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    hm okay :) ill keep lookin for you btw most boards come backwards compatible for stuff..i dunno if you know that or not :) just letting you know incase


    oh sorry what is your CPU an Intel chip or a AMD?
     
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    this reminds me..i gotta take timshow shopping for ram...
     
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    ddr2 800 speed.. I should be "ok" at least to get back up and running
     
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    those boards are perfect for you :)