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And at the end of the open lap session, a Nissan representative was on hand to nullify the warranty on the car, and factory technicians changed the transmission oil for 900 dollars + labor.
Well, I guess it's not alot, if the license tabs alone cost just as much. Prices of the incentives that go onto this car are not forgiving.
Warrenty on gets voided if they use launch control also you owna sports car like that maintence is going to be huge. Think about oil changes on the Ford GT is around 800 bucks. I know a regular Lexus is 150-200 bucks alone. gotta pay to play.
So, why would using launch control void warranty if the car comes from the factory with launch control already programmed? It's like saying that if you put your STi in the sport sharp mode you void warranty. On the otherhand, maybe if you do change your oil on this car, then you have voided your own warranty. Since the dealer will have records of when your next oil change would be and the last oil filter used with the serial number. [YOUTUBE]3EC28njJD5M&feature=player_embedded[/YOUTUBE]
Who would want to change the oil on a car like a ford GT. I heard it is over a 4 hour job for a ford tech. Not to mention when I had my Mercedes at Sears the cost was $350 for a simple C class.
Lol. You're supposed to change what?! I am kinda happy Nissan made purchase and upkeep of the GTR so expensive. It keeps most of the kiddy boy racers from absolutely ruining such a great vehicle. The newest LC on the 2012 GTR is bananas. Correction, the 2012 GTR is bananas. Sweet vids. Although all that lime green bull**** has to go!
Well Ford once had a focus that came from the factory with NOS already set up but if you used the system voided warrenty.
Who? Someone that doesn't like paying the clowns at Mercedes to put 10 quarts of 5w30 Mobil 1 and an oil filter on their car for 350 dollars. Oil extractors aren't expensive devices. And Ford likely takes 4 hours to do it because who the **** else are you going to take it to? Same thing Ferrari and other exotics do, they know the 60+ year old retirees and mechanically retarded asswipes that buy those cars aren't going to even TRY to change their own fluids...and they had no issue paying out the ass for that fast car, they wont mind paying hundreds to have a simple oil change done. But yes, I agree with you Sheen, the cost prohibitive nature of the GT-R maintenance schedule keeps the spikey haired boy racer retards from buying it. But it also keeps the white collar sports car enthusiast away. If I had a choice between a GT-R and any number of other sub-100K sports cars, the GT-R would be dead LAST on my list. It's a hot car. But it is in the price zone where it should be able to be easily serviced and for not alot of cash...instead the service costs are in the exotic car region. No thanks. When tranny oil changes for it cost nearly a grand, and they STILL put a page in the manual for recording how many transmissions you've had take a **** on you...yeah, sorry. No thanks.
Sorry not my oil change for 350 bucks but my transmission fluid where most cars it is in the $140-$170 range. Ford likely takes the time to do it because of the body panels and different protective plates that need to come of in order to do it. But someone that can't appreciate a more inexpensive exotic car would never understand when you compare something like a GT-R to a mustang 500 or a C6 Vette. When it is clearly more in the Porsche area catagories. I personally would love to have one of these over any under 100k car only to maybe think of a ZR1
The Ford GT clam-shells, the engine and transmission are easily reachable on the top. And the underside likely has a panel like any other car. Getting to the engine and transmission in that car likely isn't any more of a chore than any other car. In fact, it should be easier in theory, since the transmission isn't shoehorned under a tranny tunnel. Regardless, if a sub-100k sports car with 300k sports car maintenance is your thing, go for it.
It wasn't about permission. If that's your thing, go for it, I'm not interested. Like saying "Everyone likes sex, but if you like your sex to involve getting your nuts stomped on by a transvestite, don't expect me to also like that sort of business."
Gotta disagree with you strongly there. The GTR and the c6 Z06 (and to a lesser extent the new gt500) are RIGHT THERE and in some categories, better than the 997 turbo (non-S). At that level of performance, driver skill is by far the limiting factor when it comes to performance. Porsche clearly takes it in interior quality, materials, overall fit and finish, etc... but from a performance standpoint, those cars are top performers out of the box. There's a reason the supercar market has moved towards building hyprecars and street legal cup cars/F1 cars... some manufacturers are finally steeping their game up. Good on them. Anyway, here's one owner's experience with maintenance costs with a GTR (posts 2 and 6) http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/nissan-gtr/238748-gt-r-reliability.html#post3146293 really not that bad. I can't wait to see what the Switzer R1K+ GTR's can do. Hopefully more than the UGR TT lambos that are edging out 300hp turbo busas.
I perfer the at least 6 ft tall ones in Prada heels makes the stomping much more enjoyable especially when you pick up the expensive ones in a GT-R :ladysman:
There is a an undergraduate asian student at UST who rocks a matte black-vinyl wrapped GTR. Whether it's for the dad or not, he daily drives it to school even in the winter (sad but true). Thus it takes away that notion that a GTR is priced to prevent boy racers or average white collar guys from getting one. More so, some guys on nasioc are now buying lambos, feraris. I think that, very soon called "boy racers" are soon going catch on affording these sub 100K cars.
You can't stop rich daddies from buying little Billy his toys. And if daddy is buying his kid a GTR to drive around, odds are, he's not your typical white collar worker. And there are guys on Nasioc that are buying Ferraris and Lamborghinis because, with 200k+ users, odds are you're going to find a few that have money.
What's sad about that? It's a car. Drive it and enjoy it, it's not like it's a collectible! Sucks with all the salt up here but in general I'd love to have the means to dd a GTR year round. The one I had the opportunity to drive felt very competent on the street. With the right tires I'm sure it would do just fine.
But, don't you find it odd that a typical nasioc member can upgrade from say an '04 heavily modded STi to an '03 Lambo? in period of 1 year holding other factors constant? Again, speaking of the spikey haired guys, would it be odd if you see one driving a GTR? Howbout if the odds are this spikey haired guy has money and is among the 200K plus nasioc members? The damn salt that causes RUST on the cars is the reason as to why you don't drive the Porsche in the winter. Just like most sub 100K cars are not driven in the winter. And don't tell me that winter tires stop you from driving that Porsche and neither should you say that it's RWD, because some RWD BMWs make it through the winter. So why don't you enjoy that car all year round?
I know a member on this site that went from a 04 STi to a GT-R. Just because you have lots of money doesn't mean you cant buy a 30k econo box racer car.
I saw some STi's tucked away with much more expensive cars in the same garage at C&C. It can happen...
BC I have a truck that is much more competent in the winter. I did drive my 911 in the snow the first year I had it. It's awd but not as much fun in the snow as my Subaru that is set up for that kind of thing. Also the paranoia factor of getting hit by other drivers made me change my mind REAL quick. Still, like I said, if I had the means to do it and could afford to lose it, I'd love to drive a GTR year round. No hate from me. Whatever that kid's situation is, I'm sure he's having a blast. As long as he's responsible about it and not driving around like a dickbag endangering other drivers, I don't see the problem. On another note, good luck finding winter tires for a widebody 996/997 without also buying wheels. For the $2k, you might as well buy a beater.
so where is the line drawn for one who is a boyracer and one who is not? Is it the kind of car driven, price or personal appearance?
How would you answer your question? For me, let's just say that if you worry or get defensive about being called a boy racer, fanboi, ricer, etc... you probably are one
well,then it seems like the majority are offended being called either of the 3. in my opinion any guy who modifies their car and doesn't race it at the track is a fanboi. Then whoever modifies or just plain stock racing at the track for fun is a boyracer.
None of the above. Fanboi implies zealotry. To me it's a willful disregard for reason and basic critical thinking. Fanboi's are everywhere in all kinds of enthusiast circles ranging from cars to computers to cutlery. The underlying thread is always the same. Unwillingness or inability to accept any opinions or outright facts contrary to their chosen preferences. Boy racer is tough to nail down. I'd say it's more about concern over looking fast (and modified) than actually being fast. Skittles wouldn't work for a boy racer, for example. It's crazy fast but it doesn't LOOK fast, therefore it's junk. It also implies irresponsibility behind the wheel, which is why a lot of people don't care for the label. The STi happens to look modified and fast off the lot at a reasonable price point. Anything that hits those two marks is a likely candidate to get labeled as a boy racer. Regardless of the specific definitions for either, it's hard to say either label is anything other than a general mentality. It isn't about what you do or don't have bolted to the car, or what you do or don't do with it on the weekends. It's about how you approach the hobby and what you think you're getting out of it.
A Fanboi is someone that can't accept any other car as a performance equal to his brand of choice. And any criticism of their favorite brand of car is met with hostility, ignorance and childishness. To be a fanboi, you have to suck your specific brand of car's penis at all costs. Even if the facts are stacked against you. A Subaru fanboi cannot except that they are driving an econobox and that there are other juiced up econoboxes that will best it in a track setting. A boyracer is someone that buys flashy cars and puts shiney wheels and flashy parts all over it and drives it like a jackass to show off. They typically aren't concerned at all about how the car performs or how their modifications affect the perforamance. Boyracers love Hot Import Nights and other such childishness. Essentially, imagine how you thought about cars when you were 10 years old. Was it red, did it have cool fins and vents all over it, were the wheels shiny and gaudy, then take that mentality and never grow out of it...and then apply it to whatever car you are currently driving.
Ughhh...someone needs to write a book about the stereotypes, fads, etc related to car enthusiasts because there is a lot of criticism among the various groups of enthusiasts and the culture keeps growing. Perhaps it would lead some sort of understanding the various cultures in cars and maybe people will eventually accept these cultures as they are . For instance, what do we call people who slam their subarus to such an extent that is non-functional performance wise or even practically, almost impossible to drive on the street. Or would you rather be a fanboi who has a showcar and benefits from winning cash prizes, trophies and getting sponsorships from vendors...hey, it's another source of making money...
It isn't about car enthusiasts. For example, your complete unwillingness to accept that fanboi has nothing to do with how you've modified a car even though the term is uniformly applied across all kinds of different hobbies with the exact same connotation, would make you a fanboi of your definition of fanboi. You're over-complicating things.
Again, you're mis-using the term "fanboi." Neither of the pictures you posted has anything to do with being a fanboy, and everything to do with being a boy-racer. Pointlessly lowered, stretched tires, body kits, lambo doors, atrocious paint...those are all descriptions of "boy-racer." Modifying your car the way an elementary school child with no taste would mod...with gaudy, pointless and tasteless mods. Like airbrushed flesh paint and lambo doors. It's "look at me" modding. Boy racers do that, and they usually do it to cheap econo-cars. You rarely see that sort of business on more expensive vehicles. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist...as was explained earlier. That sort of poor-taste modding can be done to a Honda Civic, as easily as it can be done to a Lamborghini. And there are examples of both out there. Boy racers = child racers. People that do childish and pointless things to their car to be noticed. And yes, that pic of the ugly-ass lambo-door'd WRX is pure boy-racer crap. And while it's great that he 'makes money' at car shows with it, it doesn't take away from the fact that it looks tasteless and stupid. And tasteless and stupid is what gets you labeled as a boy racer.
That too. A Playstation fan-boi can't accept the fact that the XBox360 is a viable gaming machine. A Mac fanboy can't accept the fact that a PC can do the same thing their Mac does, but at a fraction of the cost. A Perrin fanboi may think that all Cobb brand parts are crap no matter what. It isn't just a car thing.
I think a boy-racer is one that does the tasteless mods AND thinks their car is fast. I think the person that knows their car is slow but does cosmetic changes is just a custom car guy. Boy-racer can be shortend in one word Ricer.
That video showed some pretty impressive driving skills. Road Atlanta may not be the most technically challenging track in America but it sure showed some of the GTR's high speed capabilities. I believe the 2012 model was redesigned to to handle launch control and will not void your warranty. I think the internet world has opened up a lot of opportunity for young entrepreneurs making really good money even while in school. Making these purchases unrealistic to most but when in fact it's the norm in this day and age. Did you know the GTR is one of the most aerodynamic super sports cars on the market. GTR drag coefficient: 0.26 Corvette Z06 drag coefficient: 0.34 Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automobile_drag_coefficient I guess it's safe to say I'm a Fan boy, I love them all, they all have their own characteristics and I just enjoy exploring those possibilities. Good think I'm not single. LOL
NO!!! NO YOU ARE NOT! YOU ARE THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF A FANBOY. YOU CANNOT BE A FANBOY AND "LOVE THEM ALL!" Dammit! Next person that needs this explained to them is going to spend 24 hours in time out.
Do you think that the GTR being an AWD is alot easier to drive as opposed to a RWD car? I'm looking at AWD versus RWD in the perspective of racing games. GT, Forza etc were RWD cars are not easy to drive compared to AWD
You're crushing my dreams there pal! LMAO I guess my interpretation doesn't meet your guidelines as far as a FanBoy goes. It's all good, I like them Fiat too with the factory Red and Green strips. Alright I'm done messing!
That's a dirty trick question there sir....I'll pick option C. But seriously there's others more qualified to respond to your question. My understanding is the GTR is a RWD but has the ability to engage the front wheels for assistance for additional grip. As far as which one is easier to drive fast that will depend on a variety of things. But IMO it really comes down to how well you know your cars setup and the competition. But from my own experience AWD is much easier to drive fast in most games and also in reality. And to your next question RWD is just a little bit faster than AWD in most cases. Games don't do a very good job of showing the gamer some of the challenges you'd face driving either one fast.
