Anyone here getting sick of having to go snail speed down the road because people don't know how to drive in the winter? I didn't buy an awd vehicle to idle down the road. And why do people insist on turning 3 lanes into two when the lines are covered? Just because there is snow on the road doesn't mean you need to drive down the middle of the road!! Sorry, just a frustrating drive home and I have a feeling I am not alone.
I agree that people do drive way to slow! It's all most even more dangerous driving like that! I dont mean speed but at lease to the speed limit!
I know but there are slow lanes for a reason. There is no reason to have a guy in the slow lane going 10 and someone passing them going 12. If you need to drive slow just stay in the slow lane. That is what it's there for. I am not saying I need to drive the speed limit and blow past everyone. I just don't think that people need to back up every lane going so slowly.
I'm sitting at work right now looking at this: http://www.dot.state.mn.us/tmc/trafficinfo/cameras_map.html Waiting for the traffic to loosen up before leaving work.
...or they could at least merge into the lane they need to be in about 1/2 a mile earlier instead of STOPPING on the highway until someone lets them in at the last minute
AGREED! I don't have a hwy commute but it was still ridiculous tonight. 45 minutes to travel 5 miles. It's usually a 15 minute rush hour drive or 20 minute bike ride. I need to get me some cross country skis :laugh:
But people will always suck at driving. I suppose it is better that the idiots drive slow enough that they aren't going to hurt anyone but that doesn't make it any less frustrating.
just because we have awd does not give us the right to go speeding down the roads when it snows. I dont want some tool running into me and I deff don't want to be the tool that runs into someone else trying to drive within their abilities.
That's true, i'd rather see a bunch of people driving slowly in the snow than acting like idiots and driving fast. I'm serious here. Don't be so damn egotistical, if it takes a long time to get home, just be happy you got home without anyone hitting you (or you hitting anyone else) And i think that driving slowly is perfectly acceptable winter STORM driving. Remember, not everyone is as cautious, and very few people have snow tires.
agreed! I miss my subaru right now, i feel safe in it. I drove a mercury cougar from Duluth to Hopkins Friday night, it took me over 3 hrs when it usually takes 2 hrs 20 min. I have never been more scared in a car in my life. I-35 sucked and got worse as a got to forest lake. when i got onto 694 the traffic sucked and people where driving like idiots.....
thats a really slick link. I dont care how slow or fast people are driving, I am so jealous you guys have snow. Go set up a meet fools!
Someone pick me up from Lexus tonight for some snow fun. I won't be able to make the bike home. hahaha
THIs x172358972345987435 i cant stand people who go as far up as they can before merging over. it really bugs me. they think its gonna make them get someone place sooner?! no cuz no one lets them in until the person who was right behind them before has be the nice guy. people in MN seem to forget how to drive every winter "AHHHHH WTF Is THIs WHITE s***!!!!!" "OH GOD MUsT DRIVE sLOW OR 100% CHANCE ILL DIE!!!!!!" "AAAAAAAAAH!"
On Johnny Cake on the way home from the gym some D-Bag in a pickup truck used the center turn lane as his own private passing lane. This is the kind of stuff that pissed me off and why I started this. I understand that safety is ALWAYS better than being in a hurry. I also understand that most people are idiots. My car drives on tires like the rest of the cars and AWD or not, your traction is only as good as your tires and the roads, BUT some people take it to extremes and don't care that they slow down EVERY lane. If you are cautious there is a lane for you. I am not passing these people driving 30 mph faster than them but I am driving comfortable in the faster lanes when I can.
sorry guys, I may drive too slow for you. I will try harder from now on to keep or stay away. but this thread allows me to share some pics some are old but the new ones get yucky.
every single winter we have 1000000X threads like this, it's just something we gotta live with. Minnesota drivers are idiots - even when it's not snowing! (I learned to drive in MA, where, strangely enough .. the drivers are .. saner)
I just wish people would use common sense, if you drive the same road everyday you know where the lanes are. If the road has clean pavement 20 mph on the highway may be a little too slow. Its just as dangerous to make somebody stop hard on snowpack as it is to drive fast. on the way home tonight i had to shake my head at the people doing 25-30 on hwy 63 (which had 2 very wide lines of cleared pavement) when i saw the short bus pass them on the snowpacked off ramp.
You are expecting common sense from the same people who text message while driving and then get in an accident but feel they didn't do anything wrong :roll:
Slow drivers used to annoy me a lot, but I think I'm just getting old or something, cuz they don't annoy me nearly as much anymore. Getting overconfident in a scoob is also a quick way into the ditch. Getting the car moving on snowpack, we have an advantage, but stopping/turning, AWD doesn't do jack. The scoob feels great in the snow, but try to drive a FWD or RWD in the snow (or worse, with crap tires), and you'll quickly see why some people go slow. Then you'll get annoyed by the punks tailgating you when they could just pass you on the left. I drive a beater leggy during the winter. Last friday was clear, so I decided to drive the impreza (still shod with summer tires :laugh: ) to a relative's house and spent the night. Saturday came, and damn, I tried to crawl my way home and let me tell you, it was pure hell. Bastards riding my tail, I can barely make a turn without the rear end coming around even at 10mph, all I could think was "WTF ARE YOU BASTARDS ALL IN SUCH A HURRY FOR???" :laugh: Seriously, it felt like I was riding on powerwheels plastic tires in the middle of the hardwood floor kitchen.
1.5 hours to drive home today. i've come to accept slow driving with snow but it still pisses me off lol. the main thing is the merging... could be a lot smoother if some people didn't hesitate and then have to come to a complete stop - that's what makes it so slow, whenever someone comes to a complete stop
It is all driver training, or lack of driver training. I am willing to bet the 90% of all the people that were on the roads last night have never hard their car/truck sliding sideways. They have no idea what to do if it did happen. For the record, 2 hours to go from Fridley to Woodbury last night. 35 minutes from 694 and uni to 694 and 35w (maybe 4 miles). And when I used the new 3rd lane on the 694/35e area, I had people pulling out in front of me because I was passing them. And not all drivers in trucks are hillbilly rednecks. I have 1 truck and 1 car. I would say that I have more problems with people in little cars pulling out in front of my truck then I have ever had with trucks in my car. Russ
This. If you recognize prior to driving that you live and drive amongst a society of people, some older, some blinder, some less skilled, some handicapped, etc., etc. then who are the idiots? Them for trying to get where they need to go safely, or those who get angry when faced with it? I know my vote. Drive safely & expect to face people who are less comfortable than you.
In my incident, it was sleeting out. And I was on a concrete bride that was veering right. I wasn't speeding what so ever. I had blizzac tires, AWD but i still crashed. IDK if i was the stupid driver, but from now on i drive like everyone around me is an idiot.(when its snowing)
^^^ +1 The thing that pisses me off are the impatient asschaps who feel the need to tailgate on icy/snowy streets.
This. I grew up driving AWD vehicles. Except for a small amount of time driving a civic, i've never driven anything else, especially in inclement weather. I drove my mom's camry for a week while i was back home a couple weeks ago, and got stuck in a NY snowstorm. It was the most frightening driving of my life. I was driving so damn slow... FWD (which i've no experience with) and crappy "high efficiency" all seasons makes for a VERY slow drive. Sorry folks behind me, you just have to deal.
It's not so much the slow driving that's frustrating to me. Yes, drive safe... and oftentimes slow is safe... It's more the idiocy that causes the slow pace... jocking the left lane at 10mph below the speed of traffic, hunting for a lane, running red lights, illegal passing, horrible merging and 4-way stop etiquette, stop light racing and almost sideswiping oncoming traffic (Go Honda Go!)... these things happen all the time, but their effect is amplified in the snow... a little drivers education goes a long way. It reminds me of Southern California drivers in the rain... "My Suburban can make it through that 4 foot puddle that everyone else is patiently driving around... Oops, I just made the news because I caused a 3-hour back-up."
RWD and icy snowy roads FTL. The car im driving right now is RWD and I know how to drive in the snow so I wouldt call my self a idot winter driver...I can beraly get into and out of my long country driveway with it right now. Once you drive awd it changes everything in the world of winter driving. Last winter during one of the last big snow storms we had for the year a friend and I dorve out to my house in our own cars. I had my impreza OBS and she had her Nissan sentra. I drive down the snowy driveway with no prob and I get a phone call form her saying she was stuck. I drove back out and she cound'nt get over the little snow bank that the plow had pushed up. I got her car unstuck and didnt realise how crappy FWD was in the snow. I didnt think about it since all the cars i have drivin in the winter for the most part where AWD. so going slow is ftw when you dont have awd, but everyone should always be considerate and safe drivers no matter what speed your going.....
I drive a RWD with crap tires and way too much torque (chevy express fullsize van, the diesel version - 440lb/ft@1800rpm...) for work. Even driving slow wont save, sometimes. Last night, I hit some black ice going over a bridge. Rears spun, back end swung right.. tried to catch it, it shot me over the left lane and spun me halfway around, bounced off the barrier, and finished up being backwards in the median. I'm just glad it didn't roll over. Stay safe/sane out there. Better to make it home late than not at all. P.S. No, this isn't looking for sympathy. It is, after all, a (crappy) part of the job. It's for illustrating why some people crawl along the road.
Yeah RWD vans are definately Horse S!@# and basically any rear wheel drive vehicle. But, it all comes down to experience. I drove my Honda Civic through the worst MN could throw at me and never got stuck and never spun out. As long as you know what you are doing and are careful of yourself and other drivers it's fine. I also work overnights so I am driving in the middle of the night before they blow are while they are blowing. And let me tell you, the most fun you can have is driving about 40 mph into one of those "plow lines" and jumping the snow pile just so you don't get stuck. Everyone, is gonna drive how they drive whether they are being safe, overly cautious or just plain stupid. It will always be frustrating and everyone will always blame the other drivers. The best thing you can do is to take it safe, know what you are doing, watch for other cars and be courteous as best you can. And if that fails...........WRITE ABOUT IT 'TIL YOU FEEL BETTER!! I don't mind hearing people complain. If I did I just wouldn't come on here.
