Hey guys, I joined early last year but got a little sidetracked with other projects. Didn't get to enjoy the car much last year or lurk the forums much. Hoping to get familiar with this community and get back into the whole car scene. I have a 2010 STI I bought new, and only 7k on it so far. Only mod is the SPT exhaust. Anyway, I'll see you all on the forums.
Welcome to the site! Get in on the Grimmspeed group buy it ends tomorrow!!! http://mnsubaru.com/threads/grimmspeed-master-cylinder-brace-group-buy.38364/page-3#post-639713
ill definately post up more than just my avatar. Current plans are Cobb stage 2+. I was ready to place the order the other week.... apparently my furnace overheard and decided to die.
Hey save yourself money and don't get an accessport. We have a very great community here that can give you a much better tune for a lot less money. Specific to YOUR car, not a general tune. I am a believer in NF Performance. However, there are a few good groups/shops.
I like my accesport, launch control is sweet and the ability to change maps is nice. Get the accessport and have Nuke or RS do a tune for you.
^ you can change maps with a netbook and cable... and get a custom tune.... and still be close to Accessport price
Who wants to carry around there lap top? Lol I guess for me $500 for the accessport wasn't a big deal. I just love how easy it is to use. And launch control, flat foot shifting are a plus also. Accessport has a lot of nice features for the money.
The only feature it has above other tuning options is form factor. It's not even "apple or pc". It's more like "pc or TI-86".
Just flat foot shift without the software. If you feel the need to swap between off the shelf maps on your own, then the AP is a good choice. Other than that, it's not really worth it, IMO.
Even if saving money isn't an issue.... Would you rather have a generic tune on your car, or one that is specific to your car? Ask any tuner if they use the same map for all 2009 WRXs or all 2007 STIs ... they all might start off with a generalized tune. However, they don't end that way. Do the smart thing for your car, and save some money while you are at it.
What do generic tunes have to do with an accessport? You can protune an AP the same way you can use a generic map for opensource.
I personally would, and did invest the money in an accessport and a protune, ability to flash maps in minutes, carry the AP in my center console, launch control, flat foot shifting and other little things to play with made it worth it to me. And a lot of tuners like tuning with the accessport. And its easy for the tuner to send out revised maps also and it's easy to copy them to the AP and reflash the car without carting your computer around. I'd rather leave a $500 AP in my car than a $2000 MacBook pro.
Dont need flat foot and launch control software. just learn to shift fast enough and learn how to launch your car correctly.
^ sorry, my bad to assume that he was planning on doing what 95% of Accessport users do. Most people I have noticed on the Subaru forums use an off the shelf tune from Cobb. Yes that is not a good statistic... but it is what I see most people doing that have an Accessport. This is very true when you are talking about people who are "new" to the Subaru mod scene. If we do take into consideration that you can have someone tune with the Accessport, my question would be why? Why would you want to drop $400 - $500 for that setup when you could..... A. Just get a tune and keep the map you have on your car. Most don't need to swap maps on the fly, or will re-tune when going to race, drag, AutoX etc. That is what I have done when I dropped E85 to 93... and back. Also what we did to my car when I went to BIR. B. If you need to swap maps at any time. A netbook and cable is still cheaper than an Accessport. So you have a more functional piece of technology and money left over. I ask this because of the options we have here..... vs those in other areas or states that don't have so many local tuners. Why do you think that this is not an option with a netbook?
I like my $160 cable and $200 laptop with custom maps to upload anytime. Hey it fits in the glove box too
I understand where you're coming from, but for me $500 was nothing and I had it in one day, simply plugged it in my car flashed a map, easily had the tuner store maps to my AP and leave it in my center console. The AP just seemed like the easiest route to go. I wasn't worried about saving a $100 or $200. And like I said I really like the launch control and the AP is just way to easy to use and data log with. Personal preference I guess.
Anything else is just nonsense JK JK Question to determine what fits you better Pump gas or other fuel? how many times are you actually going to be swapping the tune? Most can get away with a tune Some like the ability to change the tune (great for e85 users who chooses to go from pump to e85 to pump to e85 to diesel to kerosene to propane)
**I suggest that you guys post your opinion and then leave it at that. No need to argue about it. Both have their own perks. If you want the flexibility of the AP, get one! If you want a one time tune and don't plan to bounce between maps, opensource in better and cheaper. They both have pros and cons. Nuff said! Welcome back to the forum and bring the STi out to some events and introduce yourself in person! Congrats on the new "hassle free" ride!!
Not arguing, just trying to make sure the OP is educated on all of his options before he drops money on something he may not need.... or may not know about all of the options. FYI - arguing about your option and trying to force your "correct" beliefs on others is a way of life in the forums. (because they are dumb and "you/I" are never wrong ) The choice you have is to do with with respect or do it like an asshat. I like both!
Derek doesn't know what he's talking about. He is dead wrong on how to conduct yourself on a forum. I believe everyone should conduct themsel... Oh shi... nevermind...
One isn't really better in terms of the ability to tune is it? Cause I'm sure you can get the same tune whether the tuner is using open source or AP right? Open source is prob a little cheaper but Ap has a few more options and you have to decide if it's worth the extra money.
^Not enough Sceince behind this statement... In the 08+'s, you can flash the ecu with more than one flash btw. On the center selector knob, we had "sport" flashed with one tune and "sport sharp" flashed with another on Lexie's 08 STi. Not sure if you can flash the "i" setting also...but possibly. So there's a third option for him.
^It is! Not sure if you could run like a pump gas and race gas flash on each individual one. But it would be pretty awseome if you could!
No, you cannot. It's not like loading separate tunes/maps. Most times it is only used to add or remove ~2psi of boost depending on which setting you choose.
hehe...maybe...or is there not a way...who knows IMO, i think that whole I/S/SI drive mode is retarded.
I think that the "I" mode is the most best setting evar!! STi + gas saving mode=Exactly what the car was built for...goin slow!
Good to know I have some options guy, thanks! I'll probably start looking into the opensource route. I already have the laptop to lug around, might as well save a little coin. I have no intention of doing heavy modding yet. I fun simple flash to add just a bit more would be nice for now.
Then opensource is the way to go, cheap and reliable! Get ahold of Nuke or Ronnie@RS Motors. Both are very good tuners! The AP is also a good route, but IMO it's better if you're running multiple maps/tunes. Again, welcome back to the forum!
