As you notice from last night, gas prices has been gone up sky hizzle. But here is something we can do in order to drop the prices. Please read this link link. So be prepared!!!!yO http://www.twincitiesgasprices.com/Forum_MSG.aspx?master=1&category=1172&topic=260641&page_no=1
Really? You're going to have to buy gas no matter what. Boycotting buying gas for one day is retarded. In the end you'll still drive just as much as you normally do and still require just as much gas. Want to actually make a difference? Ride a bike, car pool, take the bus, etc.
I'm going to pistolwhip the next SOB that emails me one of these notices. They do nothing at all, it's not like every person fills up every day.
the US just posted an article about a well they taped in the gulf of mexico which is supposidly about one half of the oil in the middle east and what did they do capped it off. prices will be high due to the US buying oil from the middle east not due to supply in demand.
They tried doing this in California about 5 years ago when it hit 2.50 a gallon. It doesn't work. You WILL need to buy gas eventually, so they WILL end up getting their money from you eventually. Like it was said earlier, the best way to lower your gas 'price' is to lower your consumption. /thread
And if you pass that link to 5 friends in the next 10 min, you will have good luck. Actually, right now it is the refineries that sre holding the reigns. Oil is at a low right now (62 a barrel), but the refineries are only releasing so much gas a day. Right now, the us has too much oil. Basically in 3 months you will heard about the gas companies making record profits. Russ
we need the gov to establish a ceiling price on gasoline and diesel fuel. Its as simple as that. For some reason these oil companies arent blamed for group price fixing, and they arent being recognized as joint monopolies. they'll gouge until we cant afford it anymore, we need the gov. to step in.
Wow. Oil is not a renewable energy source. As obtaining it gets harder and harder, prices will continue to rise. It's a fact.
Good Question: Why Not Build More Oil Refineries? http://wcco.com/local/local_story_128180811.html WCCO) Average gas prices in the Twin Cities are flirting with $3 per gallon again. They have already topped that in other states and hit a new national average record of $3.07 per gallon. Experts said it's a supply problem. We're paying more because our refineries can't pump out enough gas to meet our demand. So why don't we just build more of them? "We're dealing with the same spigot," said Dr. Akshay Rao, a business professor at the University of Minnesota. He said the last refinery built in the United States was in 1976 and many have since closed. In fact, in 1985 there were 254 operating refineries. Today, there are approximately 142. "There were marginal refineries that weren't making enough money closed," said Rao. Existing refineries have been expanded and are actually producing record output. They process about 17 million barrels of oil each day, but Americans consume about 22 million. The difference is imported. This tight supply is why a fire or unscheduled maintenance at one refinery spikes the price at the pump. So, with all the demand, why not build a new refinery? "If you want to distill it down to one reason it's probably money," said Rao. A new refinery would cost $2 billion to $3 billion. Today's environmental regulations help keep our air clean but also make it much more expensive to run a refinery. Finding land is tough because nobody wants to live near a refinery. "It's not easy to get a new refinery in place," said Rao. There's also no doubt that current gas prices are making oil companies and refiners gallons of money. So some speculate that they don't want to build more refineries because that would increase supply and depress prices. That would cost them money. "They would be in effect be depressing prices and margins and hurting themselves," said Rao. Rao said it's simple if someone could make money on a new refinery, they'd build it. "I wouldn't be betting on a new refinery showing up anytime soon because all the economic incentives are lined up against building a new refinery," he said. Chevron said ethanol is another reason it won't build a new refinery. Leaders there said that bio-fuels will lower demand for gasoline. However, not all American refineries are owned by oil companies. Some are owned by refining companies and that business isn't as good as it used to be. In fact, the energy department said refineries' profit margins peaked in the 1980s.
the govt will not put a caon something the president has giant intrest in... it's a fact the entire bush family has had there hands deep in the oil industry. noones noticed that the gas prices inflated insainlty over the period of time that the bushes have been in office? when clinton was pres. how much did gas rise? when both bushes have been in office how much has gas risen? no it's not because of war, or running completly out of oil. ((we would be on limitations))
I was in the Navy at the time that Clinton was in office, the prices rose over a dollar a gallon in the span of a year. The price of gas has taken the entire time that Bush was in office to rise another dollar a gallon average. You can thank the Navy for rising gas prices too, since we were in the business of arresting oil smugglers in the Persian Gulf.
Also, I don't think it would be wise to have the Government regulate fuel prices since the gas companies are merely selling a product that they produce and that they have worked for a long time to solidify their business. Imagine if you ran your own little lemonade stand and were charging a certain price based on how much it cost you to produce it and how much profit you intended to make on it, then the government came in and told you you had to sell it cheaper because millions of Americans were bitching about the price of Lemonade. You'd be pissed. Also, keep in mind, Europeans have been paying far more than 3 bucks a gallon for a long time now. We will eventually meet up with the world market price of gas.
dude EVERY damn year someone posts something like this.. when are people gonna realise that ONE day isnt gonna change the prices.. they are based over times, barrel production etc etc..... if people cant afford to drive sell your car....
why would i do that to sell my car, just because i'm posting this thread....i understand the whole reality concept when i came in this country. We as consumers we all need gas for any transportation, doesn't actually matter if it goes up or down it just we can't awoid it at all.
Same crap everytime the gas prices go up. That will not get them to drop, gas prices are set in the futures markets. You can blame the tree huggers for their lawsuits when fuel companies try to build more refineries, government taxes, productivity, ethanol, fires and accidents at refineries, hurricanes, pretty much anything and everything... But the reasons for the surges in prices would be mainly tied to the futures markets and traders, not the war, Bush, Clinton, Exxon, BP, etc... And not buying for a day will not do jack other than leave you with an empty feeling because you did nothing for nothing.
Gas companies are making crap load of money on high gas prices. I BS about lemonade stand and government controlling the prices is all bull. All the oil companies are selfish bastards that are making gazilions of dollars. And the government instead of putting money into developing alternative fuels are going into wars to get other countries oil. And now hate me and bash me!
LOL. it is true that everytime there is a gas price increase people will complain to no end. but look at how things have gone. when gas hit $3.00 a gallon last summer everyone still bough the same amount of gas but just complained about it more. This 15th thing wont work, in order for something like this to actually work you need a prolonged boycott of the product. so either boycott a certain company ie exon mobil. but this isnt a good soloutio nbecuase they will just sell here gas to other comapnys who see increased demand. the BEST way to boycott gas prices is to use less gas. so carpool, get high mpg cars, dont travel as much, plan better routes, be easier on the go-pedal, bike more places (pedal or motor). if everyone uses less gas, demand will drop and in theory so will price. however it isnt this easy since fuel isnt exactly a perfect supply/demand situation. another option is to use bio-fuels. biodesial for you desiel people otherwise i have heard good things about people running E85 in there cars (WRXs included). sure you will see lower MPGs since there are less BTUs contained in E85, but you will also be running a higher octane fuel (115oct IIRC). even E85 isnt a perfect solution. since oil companies still get money for the 15% petrluem in teh product and the subsidies for doing the blending. it will still lessen the over all amount of petroleum fuels bought. such a huge issue there is no easy "do this" answer it must be a combination of several things done by both governement and society.
Me too, I got my license that year and remember paying .89 at SA filling up my little ford escort for $9
Kvang, why would you pay $4 a gallon for 92 non-oxy, when you get get it for alot cheaper a few miles away?? Russ
Tree huggers? No. The problem is people like you and me who purposefully chose to buy a vehicle that only gets 16-20mpg. I have no sympathy for anyone who buys such a vehicle. None. There are so many other options out there for vehicles that get upwards of 30-40mpg. Your fuel costs are cut in half for just trading in your car for a civic or corolla. It makes no sense to me to hear people complain about gas prices when they drive gas guzzlers. I don't mind paying these prices because I feel that driving an AWD turbo charged car is a luxury I'm willing to pay for. You all should grow up and start realizing that too.
I more interested in the 12 pack of condoms he purchased and blanked out... hah ah .. or was that soem sort of herpicide cream... ha ha
:+1: Completely true. I bought my WRX last summer when it was $2.80 roughly and knew what I was going to be in for. I did think about buying a Civic, but just sucked it up and said "Well, I'm willing to pay for it". Do I like the fact that gas prices are going up? Nope, but I'm not gonna complain since the specs of the car said it would get around 20 mpg AND it takes premium.
I got my license in '00. I remember the good days of filling up for lest than $15. I look at the graph and the prices may be a little higher than I remember. I swear gas was sub $1 in summer of '00. I drove a Saturn with a 14 gallon tank it cost me $12 to top her off. Now gas is 4x the price and I drive a car that gets half the mileage :crying: .
Well the graph represents the national average per gallon and we've been lucky enough to be under that average for as long as I can remember. And yeah, I remember that one summer back in like '99 where gas dropped to like $0.87/gallon. We cheered and then continued to drink ourselves to death. lol.
No the lemonade stand is a perfect analogy. Here, let me take something you said.... Yup, that's because their business is making money by selling you something you want at a price they decide based on cost of goods/production costs/labor costs. That's what makes us not communists. Just like the lemonade stand, that little girl asking for 25cents is doing it to make a profit because it doesn't cost 25cents in goods/labor/production to make a cup of lemonade. And the government isn't going to war to get oil. If they were, don't you think we'd have more oil? Again, your responses are so stupid and flame baiting that I know you are a moderator. That post you made smacks of forced stupidity and flamebaiting. Somebody is trying too hard.
