Apple released SDK for Iphone

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    Watching the Keynote right now and it is just unbelievable. It would be just amazing to port romraider to the iphone!

    apple.com


    Please keep your worhtless "I hate apple" comments to yourself.

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    I hate Apple.
     
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    That's sad.
     
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    Its called jealousy.
     
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    Its just mind blowing. Watch the keynote and you will understand what i mean.
     
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    Can you make a new thread with a link to said video?
     
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    zomg it can now connect to a Windows Microsoft Exchange email!!!

    On a serious note. It's just a SDK release. All that means is developers can now begin to develop cool stuff for the hardware. Other then sucking at Steve Jobs' teat, I'm not sure how this is news worthy.
     
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    go to the middle. They had a few companies create games and a few apps. They were given two weeks. And the apps are freaking sick. 3D graphics and 3d sound with special effects. This beats psp by a mile. :biggrin:
     
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    That's funny. That's not a stereotype at all...

    [​IMG]

    Check out the "What is it" line...

    Sorry Taras, I couldn't help it. :biggrin:
     
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    They released SDK to some large companies a few weeks ago and there already a few programs that are out.
     
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    Speaking of price. Do you own an apple product?

    Its worth the price hands down. You can get macbook for under a grand. It will never break or have viruses, its easy to use and it looks way nicer that any pc. Plus if you want to run windows (i dont know why you would) you can, and it actually runs better on a mac. Vista is an atrocious, disgusting piece of crap that is a miles away from Mac OS.
     
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    http://debate.uvm.edu/critadv.html
     
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    Thats fine Lee. You have a right to hate Apple. However its still one of the best software developing companies in the world. And not just software. If apple products were crap its would not be so successful as it is. 40 some present of all the PDAs is taken by iphone alone in like 6 month. Microsoft used to be a monopolist, but no more it will be because their software is junk and now there is a competitor.
     
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    I've got a picture for that argument, too.

    [​IMG]

    How's the Apple Kool-Aid taste?
     
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    I have a mac mini, for the price, it's a great computer. But when it came to mp3 players, I bought a creative zen instead, it was cheaper and had way more features than a comparable apple product. The thing is that Apple has mastered using the media to promote their products and create this hype. There are a lot of other really great competitors out there, you just never hear about them.
     
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    Wow, so about that Kool-Aid?
     
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    I am not going to fight with you. But you are being a hater. I had both mac and pc. There good and bad about each. The world is moving towards reliability and simplicity. Mac is for everyday users that dont want to spend hours to figure out why their PC keeps crashing. And you might know that one needs to edit something in a registry but i can tell you that 90% of the people dont even know what registry is and will just give up.
     
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    No, I'm saying read it. You're like a walking advertisement for this crap:laugh:
     
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    Thanks Sheen.
     
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    you had me at lol
     
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    True. I agree with you. But if all you need is videos and mp3s ipod is a great thing. One thing i hate about ipods is that they dont have radios.
     
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    I felt the same way, and went the same way, no regrets.
     
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    I sure will read it. I am not an advertisement i dont care if you buy one or not (even though i know you want one;)) I am just saying this is a big step forward for Iphone owners and i am sure they are excited about this as much as i am.
     
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    You know what, I don't hate Apple. I think they have great products, and market very well to their target audience. I'm just not it.

    In addition, I get fed up very quickly with Apple fan-boys. Just because Apple works for you better then anything else doesn't mean that is true for everyone else. If Apples held as much of a market share as you think, you wouldn't need to advertise every little software or hardware release.

    And let's be honest, the "you can run Windows on it, too!!!!1!!" argument is a bunch of bull****. Sorry, I don't want to pay 3x the price to run the OS that works for me just so it's inside of a cool looking computer case.

    If you're purely pimping the Apple OS interface, I can get that for free with Ubuntu, and it's much more customizable. And yeah, it's free.
     
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    Oh, by the way:

    Macs are still computers and will break (just like PC's oh-noes!)

    They will crash on occasion (just like PC's oh-noes!)

    And PumaJaguarLeemur isn't perfect either. Check out the list of some 150 fixes they've had to issue so far:

    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=307109

    Also, here's their computer market share reports for 06 from ZDNet (listed about 2% worldwide):

    http://www.macrumors.com/2006/06/01/mac-market-share-update/

    And the iPod is a horrid solution for the money if all you want is video and mp3. The reason Apple pulled itself back out of the sewers in the last decade is because their marketing team is good at making people believe in things that aren't true. You've already proven my point.

    Don't let me make you misunderstand me though, they certainly do make an impressive OS all things aside (except for the retarded naming system, which I will likely never understand), it's just not for everyone. Also, I like the iPhone's ability to push forward certain technologies. However, I can see where Apple continues to brainwash and mislead people to buy their crap, and then design flaws into their product to milk more cash from people. Overall it's like a very complex and sophisticated bait-and-switch.
     
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    And that is absolutely huge. The iPhone is second to RIM only in handset numbers. Them going with full enterprise support for Exchange will do nothing but push them to the top.
     
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    Below is a quote from our central computer security services that I received this week regarding Macintosh virus infections on campus.

    How you like them apples?
     
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    i like this one! completely agree even though vista blows giant donkey balls
     
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    JK, your emails are much more lively than mine:(

    Oh, and Taras, how many iphones do you currently have in your possession?;)
     
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    Haha, I get ones with that, too. This one was a list-serv email, so I'm not concerned about dissemination laws :)
     
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    I have 4 at the moment. They are spoken for. And i did not say that apple is not vulnerable to viruses. MacOs is a much better structure. Windows is still using like a 10+ year old shell. MacOS is a much better shell for software development. How many times did anyone here had their PC lockup on them? If your pc locks up because of one single program you are most likely screwed. If Ctrl+alt+del does not work its pretty hard to not have to push the "Power" button. With a mac if one program lockup you just force quit it and nothing else crashes. Thats is just my personal experience.
     
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    ?????

    Of course the Mac OS is a better structure. It is build on a unix platform. I am a technical user, I can get the same functionality with Ubuntu for free.
     
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    There's another awesome point: You complain about Microsoft's monopoly (rightfully so, mind you), but doesn't Apple specifically limit you to a certain number of iPhones? Doesn't that seem a bit... strange?

    A: You can't have anymore iPhones.
    C: Why not? I lost mine!
    A: Because we won't sell you anymore. You can't have anymore.
    C: Can't I just pay you for one?
    A: GET IN THE SHOWERS! NO TALKING!
     
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    Seriously, stop spouting the crap. I own a Macbook Pro. I only own it because I got it for 200 bucks. I would NEVER pay a premium for the problems I've experienced. I am on the third unit they have given me. The build quality is crap, paint is wearing off and the case doesn't fit like it used to. The LCD is dimming around the edges. And don't even get me started about their support procedures. The people at their stores are largely uneducated retards who assume everything is your fault. I haven't even owned this machine for a year, and I've experienced way more issues than I've listed here.

    Also, when Macs crash, they are proven to be more likely to have a system-wide failure as opposed to something that can be cured by a reboot.

    Their hardware is sexy, but since all of their models are one-off designs, and not a PROVEN model/design used across many manufacturers, they will never be as reliable.

    Also, this SDK unlocks 3G access, right? :roll:
     
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    I will agree that Vista is a piece of crap
    But I will never buy a mac.


    Linux ftw.

    Also windows XP is still fine for me.
     
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    Let me also add:

    Computer Name: Macbook Pro
    Time since boot: 4 days 21:10

    XP Machine #1 on my desk:
    System Up Time: 60 Days, 3 hours, 58 minutes

    #2:
    System Up Time:
    7 days, 22 hours, 52 minutes

    And #3, this is my main machine at work, I do everything on it:
    System Up Time: 209 Days, 7 hours, 12 minutes
    ^^^Probably time to reboot for a Windows update or two. But since it's in a very secure environment I've never bothered.
     
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    I bought my first mac back in november and I'm digging it.

    Before that I was exclusively on PC and really enjoyed it. I even experimented a bit after college, setting my laptop up to dual-boot ubuntu linux and xp.

    It used to be that I needed to run windows because of the engineering software I was running in college (matlab, pro-e, autocad, ansys, etc.) but even some of that stuff I was better off using on the unix machines at school (blegh).

    Now that I'm back in school for business, I don't really need any of those programs. And my 3rd pc laptop crapped out on me in nearly as many years. When I was dual-booting linux and playing around with installing OS' on a spare drive anyway, I installed a beta version of vista for turds and giggles. It ended up being just as glossy and queermo as OSX, and by the time my laptop crashed I said screw all this and bought the mac.

    It really is a slick user experience. But there are a lot of simple annoyances that I feel like I'm constantly trying to work around too. So I don't really get people who come off as such mac fanbois. But I think anyone who gave mac a try would at the very least be somewhat impressed with some of the integration.

    As far as them having the best programmers? I bet they're kind of sloppy if you think of it. They have exclusive hardware to write code to, so I bet they take all kinds of short cuts windows guys can't afford to make due to the wide range of hardware they have to write for. Plus, apple buys most of their technology anyway... including OSX, itunes, et. al.
     
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    You know, up until my video card and power supply died, my computer rarely crashed.
     
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    It's not pointing to a Windows based OS. That is the beauty of a PC. You have the option of different OS's
     
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    A YEAR after they released the phone! Come on, get off the bandwagon, the smoke is affecting you.

    Man, their Marketing team better be making $1mil/year, each. It definitely isn't their engineering that is selling their products... (coming from someone that has some insight into Apple's technical prowess)
     
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    Well, now that mac is x86 it doesn't really matter anymore.

    I've seen (internets) macs running linux and (obviously) windows already.

    And there are a bunch of people who have successfully run OSX on standard pc hardware.

    wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page


    So there really isn't anything all that great about either at this point.
     
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    Spoken like someone that doesn't have a clue...an Apple fan-boi. There is a correlation between power and complexity. You cannot have power without complexity. It is really more of a definition, believe it or not. Now someone can take something powerful and make it simple, but you WILL loose the power that was inherently there. Anyone that uses programming languages lives this every day. Yes, Visual Basic is very simple to use, but it has nowhere near the power that Assembly Code has. Hell, it is acutally converted to assembly before it is used. A perfect case of something powerful (assembly language), yet very complex, dumbed down to the point of it not having a lot of usefulness. Look at what sits around you today, 20 years ago many would argue how complex a pda/ipod/iphone/cell phone is, but now that everyone is more familiar with the products, they are almost intuitive. The key is education, not dumbing down what we use.

    I'll let everyone else make the correlation to what Apple generally contributes to the world.

    With all that said...Apple doesn't make "bad" products, they are just successful in making people think they are better than they are.

    Sorry to pick on you, Taras, but this one just struck a nerve due to the straight up ignorance involved.