Attn: MNSubaru gun enthusiasts (Bills Spring Show)

I may be interested as well, Brian. I will let you know as it gets closer to that date. Not that I will be buying another gun just yet, but it's always fun to look at new stuff, and maybe some accessory ideas for the XDM.

 

Sweet I don't work that day! It's in my calendar now!

 

I am in. Not too sure what I will be looking at, but it sounds like fun.

 

Pretty sure I'll come too.

What are the chances to actually get in there and shoot? How packed does it get?

 

^ probably pretty good. Like Brian mentioned you can test the guns for just the cost of ammo I believe. So if you want to shoot something, say an LMT AR, chances are pretty good you will be able to.

I want to talk to the SAI rep about what the next verion of the XDm is going to be. If it will be .45ACP, 10mm, or another less common round.

 

I'd love to get a chance to shoot an AR.

You looking to buy another XDm?

 

Nice. You're right, I'm pretty much down to the S&W M+P and the xd/xdm. Another chance to shoot both back to back would be great.

 

Both companies should be there so you could probably try the XDm, XD and M&P all back to back to see what really works out best for you. They would probably also have all the calibers there too, so you could try the XDm in 9mm.

Kind of. I am thinking more on the lines of getting one in a larger caliber if they ever do come out with such a thing. .40 is good but .45 is just so tempting.

 

I would more than likely be interested in this little get together. After last weekend I really want to buy something.

 

I'm There, I think my brother will come too. Thanks for the info Brian.
(he just got back from basic training and takes my AR apart everytime he comes over, I think he needs his own.

 

I just shot one of those at Bill's yesterday. I really like them. Super easy to shoot.

I was drooling over the Benelli M4 hanging on the wall.

 

Can't do it, my wife would start to bring in the reins on my spending.

That, and I just picked this up for $450 + $10 FFL.

ahhh... privates.

 

$450 thats a steal, Wanna sell it to me for $500:biggrin:

 

[cliff notes]I got VERY lucky[/cliff notes]

A guy I know from another forum, had it since '98 sitting in his closet.
About two weeks ago I get a message on AIM;

him: buy my M14
me: I didn't know you had one
him: Yeah, bought it years ago for a rainy day.
me: wow, news to me
him: I want to turbo the S13 but I am on a very tight budget with school
me: how much
him: I paid $650 but prices have gone up, how about $850
me: SOLD
him: really?
me: yes.. I have wanted one for (blah blah blah)
him: cool.. do you have any turbo parts for the S13
me: sure do, what do you need?

conversation goes on and on and we come to a deal.
$500 shipped
S14 T-28
FMIC w/various plumbing parts
R32 BOV/BPV (same as 1g DSM but with 2 bar spring)
R32 HKS puck filter with MAF adapter

He then tells me one screw from the butt plate to stock is stripped, and there is a 1" crack at the forward sling mount. Feels bad, and drops the price to $450 + the parts. I agree and send him the stuff ASAP. He sends the rifle FedEx 2-day, and it arrives at my FFL on Saturday. First available appointment to pick it up was last night. $10.68 later and the rifle is in my trunk on the way home.

All the parts were removed from cars bound for the junk yard in Japan, so I paid nothing for them, and the turbo was on my S13 when I upgraded to a T04B.

It is a '93 Polytec M-14s (Chinese) Sadly it has the US friendly "flash suppressor" w/castrated bayonet lug. He bought it as NOS from an older gun dealer, and has fired about 400rds through it since "new" Over the years he lost a magazine, and cracked/stripped the stock.

The head space has some play is still in "GO" but I am sure it will be out of spec by the end of summer I already ordered a TRW bolt and Op-rod for it, and will be sending into Fulton Armory in the winter for the "Chinese upgrades" they do. $800 to bring the rifle to NM spec. So for under $1600 total spent, I will have an NM rifle that is better than a SA M1A NM for twice the price

Disclaimer:Polytec and recent Canadian market Norinco M14's use a receiver made of forged/machined 8100 steel. SA and most other US M14 clones use investment cast receivers of a material which is easier to machine than the stronger 8100. Also the Chinese rifles come with chrome barrels. Barrel and receiver make them closer to issue rifles than some of the overpriced US models. IMHO there is no reason to buy an SA beyond "owning the name"


...and no, it is not for sale. Not any time soon!

Also picked this up last week.


sorry for the cardboard, if I would get cosmolene on the new carpet it would end in divorce.

 

like I said, I am pulling back on buying fire-arms for a while. The PSL was supposed to be the last till the M14 fell in my lap.

I think my collection is big enough at this point. Plus I need to spend money on paying off my wife's WRX so I can get my next whip.

 

The M-14 I had was a polytech. I got it new but I never had one problem with it. I loved that rifle, sadly I was a broke college kid that wanted money for a plane ticket to see me soon to be fiance. I sold mine to cabelas in rogers for $475. I never should have let that one get away. The rifle....I still have the fiance.

 

Where did you find a FFL with a $10 transfer fee?

 

I was given his card by a very good friend, and taken to his place. He has asked to only have his card passed to people that I can vouch for, "close friends and family." as he put it.

I am not trying to be an ass, just following his wishes.

I do know that Burnsville Pistol does it for $20 and their license is on the website in full color with blue signature that you can send to who you need.

http://www.bvpistol.com/info.htm
scroll to bottom.

 

That is a steal for the Norinco M14. I have seen ones in similar shape going for $800+ easily. It is true that they use the forged and chrome lined parts, which is awesome, however isnt is also true that the tolerances on some of their parts can be kind of lax? Which isnt really an issue unless you are looking at throwing new parts at it, specifically an optics mount (like the one pictured below).

I do agree that SAI and all of the other US made M14 Clones are horribly expensive. Although the used market isnt too bad. I still think that I got a good deal on my SAI M1A. Its just a Standard model but it only had 40 rounds down the tube (proper break in), some Sadlak and NM goodies, and was owned/maintained by someone very knowledgeable about M14s. Sure it doesnt have a chrome lined barrel but it will still do sub moa groups.

BTW: If you are looking for USGI Magazines I highly recommends 44mag.com. every once and awhile they have sales where you can get USGI 20 round (CMI new production) mags for almost 50% what anywhere else sells them for.

 

The reciever is about the only decently made part on Norincos/Polytechs. The bolt and all components are made of soft ass steel, the chrome lining decreases accuracy (it's very tough to lay an even layer of chrome lining in barrels, which make chrome lined barrels inherently less accurate), and the general fit and finish is worse than that off SA inc, LRB, Fulton. I have owned a Polytech and a Springfield Armory Inc, and the SAI is a much better and more accurate gun. Regardless, they're still a great entry level m14 clone, nice pick up.

 

I have some interest in going. Already carry my XD40. Maybe looking to pick up another. It's on my calender now.

 

I might be able to make this.

 

Anyone else going to the show in the cities tomorrow? I'm riding up with someone who knows more about it, but he said it was at the State fairgrounds?

-Steve

 

Im down to go FO SHO!!!

Used to work in a gun shop so i got some decent toys:yumyum:
Benelli m4
arsenal ak47
glock 36
and AR15 custom SPR build but im selling that to my buddy so idk if ill be able to bring that one:ugh:

 

Just got back from the one at the fair grounds. Jesus was that place packed and totally picked clean by the time we got there at 10. I guess there is still a run on AR's and AK's.....

-Steve

 

The bolt is utter crap, and totally shot out. There is a reason I have a TRW already sitting in the safe waiting on fitment. There is a BIG debate on the chrome lined vs non-lined. And for a .5moa shooter it makes a difference, but honestly the M14 is not a .5moa. Hell the M21 I was issued was at it's very best with A136 was 1 to .75moa.

Other than the bolt the Chinese parts are pretty okay. I am giving my trigger group the NM treatment, and replacing the junk stock with a USGI model. I will be happy with 1.5moa out of it :biggrin:

But for the dollar for dollar I will be able to out shoot any of the US rifles out there

 

So far I have seen some sub MOA grouping with my Springfield. Most are right around 1 MOA but I am not using fancy ammo. this summer I am going to buckle down and see what it can really do (hand loads). I wouldnt be surprised if I got some 1/2MOA groupings in the near future.

 

I still want to go with the crew, but may have to go on Friday, since my Saturaday is way busy running across three events. We'll have to report back on our findings. Bump!

 

I'm might go friday if I get off early(less crowded...maybe?) Otherwise probably sometime Sat. When and how do they do the give aways? Raffle type thing at the end of the weekend I'm guessin?

 

So is anyone still planning on meeting up or what?