From what I remember, the 2004 STi owners on Nasioc got all whiney because Nasioc wouldn't open a special forum for them since the WRX and Sti aren't dissimilar enough to require a whole forum. At least at the time that was the case. Now of course the point is moot, but it just seemed like unnecessary whining at the time over something that didn't matter. And alot of us at the time thought it was stupid to segregate the STi owners from the rest of the factory turbo subaru owners since they were all virtually the same. But alot of the new STi owners couldn't understand that, or chose not to because they were obviously special.