I was out their doing some sliding around....just some sliding around. This was my FIRST TIME at a DRIFT event and FIRST TIME DRIFTING!!! I have to thank Simba, (event person) for squeezing me in so I can have some fun!!! It was a really FUN TIME!!! Matt came out there too with his V5 STi swap! Great to see ya!! The drifter guys loved the wagon out there!! It suprized many! I had a lot of fun!!!! Better vids to come, but there's a Fuji VID (I was driving). [youtube]mXHiRQ97gy0[/youtube]
NOICE fuji! you gotta teach me how to do that :O i assume your car is still AWD? that's not an easy thing to do
nice fuji, i was thinking of rolling out to do pics but didn't feel like driving out there this weekend
So what are your thoughts on this track layout? Was it easier to initiate oversteer on this course with your setup? How difficult was it to manage the Black Mamba's setup on this style of driving? Well I'm glad you were able to get her out there, now at least we know what else she is capable of in capable hands. Did you make any changes to the setup to collective make it around without losing her completely? Do tell! -Cheech
That looks awesome Fuji, nice job. I have a hard enough time trying to get sideways in the dirt, you made it look easy on the asphalt. Next time you can borrow my windshield camera mount if you want too.
After looking at that picture again, it looks like a Japanese driver with a mastache. And his name is Mt. Fuji Industries. LOL
Just a quick pull of the e-brake started the slide then give it gas. The turns came up pretty quick so it was difficult to really get into position. I started out in 1st gear, found out that wasn't enough. Then I went faster in 2nd gear and that pulled through the course. I entered the first turn at 40mph. Keep the car sliding and you can carry the momentum through the course. It is actually pretty easy to control the slide. If you feed more gas and the rear will come around more but not suddenly because the fronts are still kind of pulling the car forward. Start to ease off and it'll regain grip. The thing to learn is that if you let OFF the throttle when it's sliding, and if it comes around TOO MUCH, you'll just spin out. IF Giving it gas to save the slide doesn't come through, the car will just spin out. I'd 3-wheel coming over the crest as the guys said. This part of the track spun the car out a few times. The tires where VERY GRIPPY; 235/40/17 RT615's. No changes where made to the car at all. Quick turns will start to get the car to slide. A simple flick and the rear will probably come out. I mainly initiated the drifts with a quick pull of the e-brake. Sometimes even when in the corner just to keep the rears sliding. The rear suspension is just STIFF. The LSD could have been better. The car would have had better control if the LSD was better. The OEM LSD doesn't have enough INITIAL bite, and it is not sensative enough. You have to really go WOT for the LSD to lock-up.
Here are a few more pics that they took. BTW, I did the recording with Fuji's cell phone. =P Just a "STUDENT DRIVER"
I don't know if I'll be attending more drift events. We'll see. I have to really get used to the cars setup before getting crazy....(as if I haven't got crazy already...lolz).
Alright next time we're going to need a little more angle and tire smoke from ya. Who is your instructor who took the time to powder his nose while you were going sideways. Or am I confusing him with that the guy who couldn't find reverse!
AWD just requires you to knock out all the understeer or be fighting it till the ends of the earth and have more power on tap so you can actually break the tires free. AWD is a little different as the approach to a corner is different from that of a rwd car. There's a little more investment into the corner For anyone interested in learning drift techniques, I suggest finding some gravel roads with "friendly" corners, i.e. if you slide off, you won't lose your car, or wait for winter and some fresh snow on the ground. Old discussion on some techniques for AWD drifting: http://www.drifting.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6479 A vid I ran across a little while ago showing an Evo drifting on a track and the side effects of messing up: Old vid of a Subaru that I've always liked watching, shows the effort taken to get it right: My only suggestion is try to resist countersteering unless absolutely needed when on-throttle. This isn't a rwd car, and most of what you will be doing will have very little inward or outward steering depending on if the car is understeering, neutral, or oversteering at that time. Lots of countersteer will pretty much spin you or toss you off the road once the rear end catches as the front tires are always pulling when on-throttle. Off-throttle, all cars drift the same.
Yes, that would be Fuji and the person texting, that would be ME! We had a blast, you guys should've been there! Everyone would come up to Fuji and ask, "Is your car RWD?" muahahaha
been in this car a couple weeks ago.. its awesome. definetely do more drift events.. who else is doing it let alone in a awd car let alone a wagon.. way sick.. just get some cheap fed's from driftline and drift those.. itll solve your traction issue.
lol that just sounds funny on a subaru forum cuz i know a lack of traction isnt the case the student driver magnet is sooo cool! i rock a set of those every onceand a while just for fun cuz all the kids want to take a lesson
We can definately use some pointers from this man. Considering he is leading this campaign. I hope these examples will inspire new drivers.
according to your pic you have a s14 with a giant lipa nd like 18s.. where were you? and holster.. i know right? you gonan go try and drift yours now too?
I had family obligations, I had initially planned to go with but had to back out at the last minute. Currently my S14 does not come with an ebrake, so most of the drifting techniques will have to be initiated thru other means. The car is setup for grip, but drifting is not that hard to immitate, I ment initiate with the current setup. LOL You can expect to see the car in some drift events in the future, I am still sorting her out. :yumyum:
i would....but i dont think my drivetrain could take the beating. i go to shoot though. you see my photos on D-town after every event i attend. but i want better track access.
Snow or gravel... It helps you work around that whole low power thing.:laugh: It can be done on pavement, but the speeds are much higher and you'll generally bleed off more than you can give back with any remote amount of attack angle. The higher forces are also a bit more harsh on the car, for some quite high if they're running pretty sticky tires. Gravel is a good alternative. It's just a matter of finding a road you can play on with a few good corners with great visibility and friendly runoff. Then just progress very slowly, use your head, and drive smart.
