Buying a digital camera, your advise?

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  1. bikerboy
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    Hey all I am looking at buying a digital camera and am torn as to what to get. My limit cash wise is 400.00 and I am buying it from Best Buy since I have a gift cert. I am looking at these two models and am leaning twards the Sony since my computer is a Sony as well so I can use the memory stick.

    Sony: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...ductCategoryId=pcmcat44100050012&type=product


    Cannon: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...ductCategoryId=pcmcat44100050012&type=product

    What do you think?
     
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    Save up the extra pennies and get the Digital Rebel. Best camera barnone. Other than that. I would go with the Canon you are looking at.
     
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    The digital Rebel is a thousand dollars, I can buy alote of parts for the car with the extra 600.00. Thanks for the input
     
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    Don't forget the fuji stuff.Here is a good one.

    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...ductCategoryId=pcmcat44100050011&type=product


    The biggest thing, is what are you going to do with it?? Some of the things to look for is the focus. The better the optical, the better the pictures will be farther out (fuji is 10x opt, the others are 3x). I guess if you are limiting yourself to the $400, any of them are going to work. I just use a little Sony p8 digital which is only 3.2mp. Like stated by capone, if you want to get into some of the good digital stuff, save your pennies and get into a digital slr. Figure out what you want it for, that main thing that is going to limit the camera is low light and fast moving. If you are just looking to take some pics of non-moving items (car parts, etc) go with a $200 and get some other toys. the darker is gets and the faster it moves the better the camera.

    Russ
     
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    I know its very expensive. But its well worth it. But if you are just doing point and shoot pictures. I wouldn't even spend that much. If you are going to do something halfway artistic I would save for a better one. A digital SLR will give you the best quality digital pictures in every aspect. There is a large margin between point and shoot and something that is going to give you high quality pictures.
     
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    Matt, here's my input... I really like both camera but for the feature listed... the Sony edge out the Canon by a small margin.
    Here's a back to back review for you... give these link a try:

    http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/com...byside&cameras=canon_s500,sony_dscw1&show=all

    Here's a break down and buyers review to the Canon S500

    http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Canon/canon_s500.asp?dontcount=1

    http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/read_opinions.asp?prodkey=canon_s500

    Here's a break down and buyers review to the Sony DSC-W1

    http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Sony/sony_dscw1.asp

    http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/read_opinions.asp?prodkey=sony_dscw1

    Matt, if you want a Point and Shoot Digital Camera for the $400 price range, you won't go wrong with either of these two camera. Assuming that I know you at the moment of this purchase, you just want the most bang for your $400 and these two camera are the crop of that range.

    When you're ready to get serious with Digital Photographying. A Digital SLR would be the way to go but, we'll save that for another thread.

    DSLR can get very expensive due to lens, filters and flash but manageable if you know what type of environment your shots will be in most of the time.

    Happy shooting!
     
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    Matt,

    I can't stress enough that sony digicams are not that great. The quality is only so-so, and Sony memory sticks are teh suck (stupid proprietary crap).

    The SD500 is nice, also check out the SD300 for even more potability.. and larger LCD :-D
    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...ductCategoryId=pcmcat44100050011&type=product

    Right at your price range, 4 megapixels, 3x Optical Zoom, and many many features. (only lacks manual focus and manual arpeture settings.. (but you can change ISO settings which changes arpeture.. just no mix and match)

    I own the Canon S410 digital Elph (same size as S500). Very similar to that SD300, except the SD is a little smaller, and uses SD memory. It's a standard that is adopted by many camera makers now, and you can just pick up a USB SD card reader.

    Finally, I have a co-worker that has a Sony 5 megapixel "super camera". He was talking it up like Vic talks up the STi. I brought my camera to the table and we took various pics of the same thing. My Canon 4 megapixel camera had WAY better quality.. not only color reproduction, but also clarity. The Sony had quite a bit of image noise where the Canon came out pretty clean. The Sony colors appeared washed in comparison. Let's just say that he was a little depressed he spent more money, had higher resolution, but still the Canon came out superior!

    Good luck!
    -Jordan

    P.S. If you want to spend less, the Canon SD200 has basically the same features and size, but a 3 megapixel CCD instead of the 4 megapixel. Personally I'd go for the 4, but sometimes people get rational when thinking of budgets.
     
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    Thanks guys, Jordon for sure! I have had cannon cameras for years and love them. I really wanted to go with them but the memory card thing looked like I should go with the Sony.

    Jordon, do you know about the memory card in the Cannon? It looked like it was a PCMIA card? I dont know much about this stuff.
     
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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by bikerboy

    Thanks guys, Jordon for sure! I have had cannon cameras for years and love them. I really wanted to go with them but the memory card thing looked like I should go with the Sony.

    Jordon, do you know about the memory card in the Cannon? It looked like it was a PCMIA card? I dont know much about this stuff.
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    PCMIA is only on computeres.... you would use a PCMIA adaptor to put the memory cards into most laptops that don't have a specific reader built in.

    I am NOT a camera buff, my step dad is so I get his left overs, but I know 1 thing... sometimes 2, depends on how early in the morning it is....

    Canon for their smaler cameras use SD (secure digital) (elf)
    and for their larger cameras Compact Flash (CF)(A75, D-30, D-60 SLR).

    The one linked at best buy used SD.
    SD is slightly more expensive than CF, but they are still reasonabley priced, and cheaper than xD, or Sony Memory sticks.
    http://www.ecost.com/ecost/shop/detail.asp?DPNo=660824&adcampaign=email,EWB06760

    Cheaper to get that camera at E-cost
    http://www.ecost.com/ecost/ecsplash/shop/detail.asp?dpno=517548

    My Personal Pref, Canon to sony. I don't like the memory sticks, and a few other things about the sony's.

    As for Fuji.... nope I will not do it. They use xD memory cards, which are 3-4 times more expensive than SD, or CF.... I also don't like their cmos as much... and every other camera I have is cannon so I guess I am a little biased for cannon :p.

    I currently use cannon... A75, A60, D-1, D-10, D-30, D-60. If you decide to get into an SLR just ask and I will bring a few by to check out. Most of the pictures I took on my web server were the D-30, D-10, or the A 75.

    I plan on getting an ELF next for my pocket camera, the A75 is just a little to big to fit in my pocket.
     
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    The S500 uses compact flash memory.

    The SD300 uses SD memory. (Canon appears to be moving toward using SD in all their cameras?)

    Getting a USB card reader allows your card reader to be portable, and used on other PCs. I recommend getting a multi-reader, so no matter what kind of cards you end up having, you can get files off of it (i.e. buddy comes over with his camera and you want pics off of it)

    Something like this:
    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...57921&productCategoryId=cat04010&type=product

    This model does not need any drivers installed for windows 2000 or windows XP machines. You plug it in and you have several removable drives appear (one for each type of memory port).

    Oh, and if you're not in a hurry to get the card reader.. that same model is $25 with shipping from newegg.com (usually they have the stuff to you in 3-4 business days from order)

    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-171-086&depa=0

    -Jordan
     
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    Man this is about the best discussion I have seen on the board in a while! good info guys whish I had you knowledge
     
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