C02 injection

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    it wouldnt do much on an N/A car, but it would do plenty on the intercooler of a turbo car...perhaps i'll use this when i get my engine together in the spring :idea:
     
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    Yea that Intercooler Sprayer looks like it would be bad ass!
     
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    it would take away the heat soak that goes hand and hand with top mounts
     
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    This won't net you as much HP as good ol' nitrous oxide(NO2) in both NA and turbocharged cars. I don't think there much of a price difference either.
     
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    but it wouldnt cost much to refill, thats the thing...they arent talking about injecting it into the intercooler, only on the outside to cool the intercooler
     
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    i would like to point out that paying $500 for a CO2 intercooler sprayer is robbery. i bet i could make a DIY one for <100.

    all it is, is a CO2 tank (get at local welding store), some big hose clamps to mount it (home depot/Menards), a piece of conduit with some holes in it (home depot), a push button swith to activatge it (home depot), and some type of line to connect it all together (home depot).

    i bet that for the 100 its actually worth it would be a good mod. TMICs are very prone to heat soaking, since they are conviently located right over the engine. so having that cold CO2 there to keep it cool would help if you are waiting at the start line or what ever.
     
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    you would need some kind of solenoid to open and close
     
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    BTW the title on this thread is very misleading. CO2 injection would instantly stall an engine. What is meant is CO2 cooling.
     
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    Bah... $100?
    i bet i could keep my intercooler nice and cold while sitting in line for the start for $3. even less if i bring it from home...

    It's called ice.

    it has the added feature of keeping my drinks cold when I'm not using it for my engine.
     
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    wouldn't it be cheaper to just hook your a/c to the tmic some how instead of wasting hundreds for such mods?

    +1 for ice!!
     
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    With the power it takes to run the a/c.... That mod would be worthless....
     
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    Hmmm...
    How about O2 injection :twisted:
     
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    That's basically what nitrous is.
    THe Nitrogen molecules don't do anything, the oxygen molecules do.
     
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    cool, didnt' know that, thanks!
     
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    Oh yeah... CO2 and N2O are almost identical...
    One is used in FIRE EXTINGUISHERS...
    And the other one is used as an oxidizer on ROCKET FUEL...
    "Basically" the same thing... :roll: :roll: :roll:
     
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    I believe he was saying Injecting N20 is basically the same effect as injecting O2, not that C02 and N20 are the same.
     
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    Oh. My apologies then.
    In that case... Injecting pure O2 would have the following disadvantages:
    1- N2O liquefies at room temperature at around 900PSI. Oxygen never liquefies at room temperature; O2 tanks usually store oxygen compressed at 3000PSI; a much bigger hazard. I haven't run the math but I suspect there is more oxidizer per volume in a tank of liquid N2O than in a tank of compressed O2 @3000PSI.
    2- The breaking down of the N-O-N chemical bond consumes energy. This, plus the heat of vaporization of the liquid nitrous oxide actually cools down the combustion chamber (EGTs should DROP with proper Nitrous usage). In contrast, pure oxygen would cause EGTs to skyrocket like you have never seen before. See below:
    3- Oxygen-Gasoline torches are a great way of cutting steel http://www.petrogen.com/; "cuts steel like butter" :lol:
    (Granted, you can make a torch out of Gasoline and N2O, but the flame would not be as hot.
     
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    ^^^ Brilliant!!!!!!!!

    i like the analogy of running an oxy-torch into the block LMAO!

    also i got a good laugh form the CO2 NO2 comparion w/ fire extinguisher and rocket fuel! OMG ROFLOL!
     
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    did you know that monekys peel there bananas from the bottom up? it's an easier process than trying to pull away from the top!
     
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    sadist! begone!