catback performance?

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  1. 05wrxwagonnoob
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    Will a catback give me any extra juice. Im all stock and ready for my first mod.
    Either catback exhaust or red rally armor flaps and hella horns :)

    If I go with flaps and horns then I'd save for turbo back is that the bes t way to go?
    Am I just wasging my money with catback?

    Thanks ray.
     
  2. xluben
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    The catback will give you equal performance as the mudlfaps and new horns.
     
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    it will sound a lot better with the exhaust though :)
     
  4. 05wrxwagonnoob
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    Hats where I am stuck. I want the sound so bad but I don't want to waste my money when I will be replacing it anyways
     
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    Why would you be replacing it?
     
  6. 05wrxwagonnoob
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    For a turbo back when I go stage 2
     
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    If planned correctly, you can add the catback now, then add the downpipe at a later date. I went through a couple of variations of catback exhaust before finding what I liked and then adding my downpipe. You will not gain any real performance with just the catback.
    A good tune will go farther than either of your choices listed.

    You can't put hella horns and mudflaps in the same sentence with mods...
     
  9. 05wrxwagonnoob
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    My bad its just the choice I have at the moment and I know none of them sill help me performance wise
     
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    Downpipe + Catback = Turbo Back Exhaust
     
  11. 05wrxwagonnoob
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    Glad someone is clearing things up for me. So your saying I don't need a full exhaust?

    unk7, post: 724219, member: 1370"]Downpipe + Catback = Turbo Back Exhaust[/quote]
    Ok someone I
     
  12. Vinnie
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    cat backs are for sound purposes. You could get a great downpipe for the price of a ****ty cat back. Spend the money on that instead
     
  13. 05wrxwagonnoob
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    This seems like a good deal. Would you agree?
     

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    That looks to only include the downpipe and axleback, you'd still need a midpipe. If my memory is correct, I don't think Perrin makes just an axle back, so you'd probably have to track down a Perrin midpipe for it all to work.
     
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    You would need a midpipe to rock that downpipe to its full potential. I would double check if that axle back mates to stock midpipe
     
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    That DP is also junk, get one that has a bellmouth flange or divorced WG.

    Mike
     
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    Fixed. Please don't tell people that it is only required for potential. A tune would be required period.
     
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    Go with flaps. Everyone will think you rally. :)
     
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  19. 05wrxwagonnoob
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    Thanks spunk I thought something was fishy. How hard is it to find a midpipe and does it have to be a perrin?
     
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    If I were you, I'd pass on this and wait for something better. As someone mentioned earlier, that downpipe isn't the greatest and if the Perrin axleback doesn't mate up with the stock midpipe then you'll be sent on a wild goose chase. I thought I remember seeing a cheaper downpipe in the FS section, have you looked there?
     
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    Buy a Downpipe when you have money to tune your car. Invidia is one of the most popular brands for Subarus.

    Buy a Catback to connect to this DP.

    You can buy them all at once or seperate. Here are your options....
    1. Downpipe = Requires Tune
    2. Catback = No Tune
    3. Downpipe + Catback = Requires Tune


    I would suggest picking up a DP and Catback from the same brand. For instance Invidia makes a few DP options and a few popular Exhaust options. Then you know the flanges will meet up and less of a chance for an exahust leak. Do some research (MNSubaru, NASIOC, Google, YouTube for sound clips) then come back to this thread.
     
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    This will drive a n00b crazy. Derek speaks the truth on this point. Big time.
     
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    Second that. Research photos and info. on the stock DP vs. aftermarket ones. That one in the pic won't do you much benefit over stock. In general research will do two fold: it will show you what many people run and why, but also and more importantly you'll learn about your car and help you make informed decisions so you don't waste your money.
     
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    I would suggest going to Google and doing proper research instead of asking people to spoon feed it to you.
     
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    I do. Just not legaly:smoke: hah
     
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    Didn't ask anyone too but ok my bad.
    Partys over guys^
     
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    Any bellmouth/divorced downpipe will be fine. Any catback should be fine. If you end up with a divorced or bellmouth downpipe that doesn't eliminate the 3rd cat (stromung did this I think) you can always go the cheap route and bash the catalyst out of the third cat with a 3/4" metal pipe, a hammer, and a pair of long needle nose pliers. But seriously, as long as the turbo end of your downpipe is bellmouthed or divorced (has a pipe for the exhaust exit AND the wastegate exit) then you're golden. Catbacks are for sound, so your best research site is YouTube, because beyond the sound differences, they all give about the same performance.
    And yes, you need a tune.
     
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    And if you're interested I have an Invidia N1 cat-back exhaust sitting in my garage. $200.00
     
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    oops dindt mean tune.
     
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    I would jump on this OP. That's a decent deal right there.
     
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    I'm interested for sure. Il be at the meet tonight but won't have the cash till friday hopefully. I'd give you some down to hold it if need be
     
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    Reinvented
     
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    Do want lol
     
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    MOTHER OF GOD.
     
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    What did you do, Ray?
     
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    This x 1000000000000.

    OP, read that quote from Xluben a few times .. then take a breath and stop being in such a rush to blow your car up. You obviously have ALOT of research and learning to do before you start buying and slapping parts on your car. These turbo Subaru's are extremely sensitive to modifications, and it is very easy to fry a motor on these cars when you mod them wrong.

    My advice to you is to buy absolutely nothing right now, and spend the next few months educating yourself on these cars and the good and bad parts out there for them. Spend the Winter season familiarizing yourself with your car and Subaru's in general, and next Spring buy some quality parts and get a good tune. If you follow my advice, you will be much happier and spend less money in the long run. If you buy some crap parts without even knowing what the heck your buying, then throw them on there without proper tuning or support mods, then you will be needing a new motor very soon.
     
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    SHUT THE FRONT DOOR!
     
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    And remember that just because you have all wheel drive, you are not invincible. AWD doesn't help you stop or turn faster in snow...the only thing that helps is snow tires ;)
     
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    This can be done in a week or less...if it takes you months to figure what good parts are......I really don't know what to tell you....tune and how you drive mean more to how long your car will last, not really what parts.
     
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    Exactly. As long as the bellmouth/divorced plate is there, a pipe is a pipe is a pipe is a pipe. Some sound different than others, but all in all, they all do the same thing.
     
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    I'm a prime example of this...4500 dollars worth of damage, I recommend buying winter tires before all other things being the time of year
     
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