Engine Block Heater?

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    Yes very good mod! I would also recomend a timer to turn it on a couple hours b4 you drive it!
     
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    I have one in my truck and love it. It takes about 5-10 min to get it up to temp no matter how cold it is outside. The one thing that you have to remember, is that all your other fluids will be cold. I usually leave my truck plugged in all night (about 10 hours). It uses a bit more electricty, but for what I save in gas it is worth it.

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    The one I have uses a big magnet and just sticks to your oil pan. Heats the oil and the lower end of your engine. I never use it anymore. If you want it you can have it :)
     
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    my 01 RS has one, and I agree with the aforementioned statement, it only takes like 2 minutes for your coolant to warm up.
     
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    My car won't run without one in the winter. I also leave mine plugged in all the time. It's heating your coolant below the heater core but once you crank the engine and start pushing that hot coolant around you get your heat coming on faster in the cab too. Since I have to warm up the car for a couple minutes anyway I leave the heater plugged in while I idle up and unplug it before taking off.

    Even if you don't require it for starting like I do it's still nice to have the heat on quicker in the cold.
     
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    You guys will see me with one really soon then! :D I appreciate the healthy responses.

    Quick question though; where does it plug into?
     
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    freeze plug of the block
     
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    They activate the same as the battery heater but the engine block are underneat the engine. Plug it in plug it in!!!
     
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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by kickin_81Quick question though; where does it plug into?
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    A standard 115v house socket.. I remember when I was a little kid seeing my dad plug his car in to the wall I was like WTF?
     
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    if you guys are worried about not getting heat fast enough when you drive then you should to the Minnesota method. put a big piece of card board between your radiator and grill. car stays heated and heats up fast.
     
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    Thanks, Tom. I didn't know that. I'm a visual guy. I need a picture of a plugged socket. :p

    Kong, I will never do that to my scooby unless it's for bling-bling.

    Anyone know of one that heats up the engine oil? I'd rather have that.
     
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    It does heat the oil as well as the rest of the block or anything bolted to the block.
     
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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by kickin_81

    Thanks, Tom. I didn't know that. I'm a visual guy. I need a picture of a plugged socket. :p

    Kong, I will never do that to my scooby unless it's for bling-bling.

    Anyone know of one that heats up the engine oil? I'd rather have that.
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    The one I have heats your oil and pretty much the rest of the block. Sticks on your oil pan. Just gotta remember to pull it off before you go driving around.

    You can have it for free if you want it. I never use it anymore. Subaru gets my side of the garage now :D
     
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    Morgan, I'd like to take your offer and make some time to see it. Emailed you.
     
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    I wouldn't recommend the magnet pan heater as it gets the oil way to hot and it can make it sludge.
     
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    Does it really get that hot? I assume Synthetic oil can withstand sludging until super high temperatures...?
     
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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by bikerboy

    I wouldn't recommend the magnet pan heater as it gets the oil way to hot and it can make it sludge.
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    Any proof behind that? 'Cuz I don't buy it... even searched around the net.

    Your engine gets the oil way hotter than the heater would. I don't think its going to turn your oil pan into an oil refinery and smelt your oil into any sort of sludge.

    Might be a fun experiment. Leave it on all night outside. Then drain the oil in the morning before running the engine. See if it's really a sludge or if its just warm oil.
     
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    they only get up to around 100 degrees, you can hold it in your hand when its working.
     
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    interesting
     
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    Morgan, did you get my email? I didn't get a response.
     
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    yep i agree the ghetto way....

    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by kongzilla

    if you guys are worried about not getting heat fast enough when you drive then you should to the Minnesota method. put a big piece of card board between your radiator and grill. car stays heated and heats up fast.
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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by kickin_81

    Morgan, did you get my email? I didn't get a response.
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    Yeah sorry about that I didnt check my email all weekend. We've talked since your last post though and I'll see you tonight :mrgreen:
     
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    The magnetic oil heater works very well. I let it heat my oil pan for ~20 min. My heater came on one mile sooner and the engine noticably revved smoother and quieter. :D Thanks, Morgan.
     
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    Can you buy the magnatic heater every where?
     
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    Morgan bought his from NAPA. Morgan doesn't know if they still stock them anymore. You could check. They run between $~10-20 each.
     
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    do you know how to install it, I gonna get it from subaru dealer.
     
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    Tommy, an engine block heater fits into the freeze plug located under the motor. You'll need to change your coolant at the same time you install an engine block heater. The dealer will install it for you for 1.5 hours labor. [xx(]

    A magnetic oil pan heater is placed and magnetized to the oil pan. All you do is stick it to the metal oil pan and plug it in. Morgan and I found out that it takes 200 watts to power it up.
     
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    Thank you I just research how to intall the genuine subaru engine heater, and just like you said fong I must labor underneath the motor, well the hell with that. I'll get the NAPA part.
     
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    With the block heater you are also warming up the coolant. With the oil pan heater you are just warming up the oil. I would spend the labor dollars to get a block heater. You will still need to let you car sit and warm up with the oil warmers.

    Russ
     
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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by kickin_81

    The magnetic oil heater works very well. I let it heat my oil pan for ~20 min. My heater came on one mile sooner and the engine noticably revved smoother and quieter. :D Thanks, Morgan.
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    Hey glad it is working out for you.
     
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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by WRX1

    With the block heater you are also warming up the coolant. With the oil pan heater you are just warming up the oil. I would spend the labor dollars to get a block heater. You will still need to let you car sit and warm up with the oil warmers.

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    Even with an OEM block heater you should warm it up properly. All these heaters do is cut down your warm up time. None of them will make your engine sit at operating temp ready for you to jump in, turn the key, and floor it :)

    Using any of the 2 heaters is better than nothing.
     
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    Got mine at BC Napa, very expensive, but since I'm a member of AAA they cut me the taxes off:mad:. So that means I have to jack up and crawl underneath to get the oil pan. :(!
     
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    Tommy, how low is your car? Mine is on Eibach sport springs and all it takes for me is to get on my knees and one hand. Then plug it in to an extension cord and "Wha-lah!" :)
     
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    I still have the stock suspension so that means no knee for me right Hoo hahh

    It says here that you can put in the intake manifold, battery holder, and engine block. did you done that? Get ready for tomorrow 20 below!!!:(


    BTW fong the heater unit in the back there is the like a hang and the screw attach to it, i unscrew the top and it came off. Should I deattache it when I using it?
     
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    Tommy, either you get on your knees for 5 seconds or you spend 5+ minutes installing a simple magnet. ...and trust me, you'll just want to heat the engine oil pan with this thing. It's designed to heat a volume of liquid.

    The oil heater I got from Morgan has a straight handle on it. No screw is visible. If there's a screw on it and it was bolted tight; it was bolted tight for a reason. Don't mess with it. :eek:)
     
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    I'm finally use my magnetic heater. At first it won't stick the bottom on the oil pan, but I wipe some of the dirt off and it finally stick on it not strong tho. I let them sit about 15 mins. After I started my car end it went normal, the temp gauge point was still minimal until 5 mins run it finally went up. Great deal on magnetic heater.
     
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    Try keeping on overnight. That'll do you better. 15 min is nothing. :eek:)
     
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    Man wish I had one on the KIA this morning.... it barely started! Too bad the "oil pan" on it is an aluminum cast 'pan' thats really part of the crank case that bolts on. Magnets no stick :p

    thanks KIA [xx(]
     
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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by kickin_81

    Try keeping on overnight. That'll do you better. 15 min is nothing. :eek:)
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    You can do that? WOW!!! Sorry on morganm sux as hell