FP Green - tune anybody?

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    So I just got a great deal on an FP Green and of course I now need a tune. I'm not sure I want to use any local pro tuners. I've got a Cobb AP, but I've been thinking of ditching it for an Enginuity tune and learning how to do the deal myself, though I don't want to destroy my engine either.

    Sooooooooo, would anybody be willing to tune my ride? Should I drive to P&L in Chicago? Of course I could pay for the job.

    Thanks.
     
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    Thats some serious UMF.....F. Do you have a 2.5? Green will require some serious exhaust! There are a few great tuners on board. Otherwise try DOMTune. I'm in the same situation and working with DOM Tune. Good luck!

    www.getadomtune.com
     
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    2.0, TXS TMIC, 660c - Anybody used DOM tune before? Should I add a GM BCS and a new BOV before the tune. Am I right in thinking that the stock BOV may not hold at higher boost and power?
     
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    FPgreen on the 2.0L wow...when do u expect to spool?
     
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    i wouldnt run the stock BOV, it will start to recirc and it wont be able to handle it, i know a few people that attempted it
     
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    Definitely get a 3-port BCS. Will you max out the MAF with this setup? Tom?
     
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    I know the spool will be slow, but I wanted something big, and the price was right.
     
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    I can openecu tune it.
     
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    Yo LSE, if you openecued it, I could ditch my AP right? What do you reckon a tune on my setup would run me?
     
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    If you open ecu it you cant run more then 21 22 psi.
     
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    on a green that would equate to some serious numbers
     
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    True but he already owns an AP
     
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    yeah, but he can sell the AP, and put the money towards whatever too, nothing wrong with 20psi on a Green on an OpenECU tune, serious power would be made, i think it could even satisfy his power hunger for a while.
     
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    does OpenEcu have some sort of boost limit? BOV suggestions anybody, nothing too loud and obnoxious?
     
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    Your stock computer has a limit of about 21-22 psi.
     
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    Perrin has a dang nice "BOV" thats bullet proof, but its spendy. Greddy, Blitz, just stay away from the HKS and it wont be too loud
     
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    I think your stock MAP sensor has a limit around there, right? You could probably hook a different sensor up to the stock ECU but tuning it would be a PITA. The bigger problem is the 300 g/s MAF limit.
     
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    Well another club member just did a 20g on a 2.0l and he maxed out his maf pretty quick, so green will definitly max out the maf. Also he was getting full boost around the 47-4800 rpm mark with his 20g. The other thing is that your injectors *might* be able to handle the green. a 49lb wheel will moved alot of air so it would definitly be in your best interest to get some bigger injectors, a big maf of some sorts, and a 2.5l. I would guess that you will be hitting 20psi around 52-5300, but when it hits, it will hit hard.

    Russ
     
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    Without a doubt it would max it out.
     
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    Get a big maf and a electronic boost controller with the money from selling the AP, then he can run more boooooostz0r??1?!!?
     
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    Yeah. Running 22psi would be fine on the green but those things really shine once you push them to like 25-26psi. If you are only intending to run ~20psi you would almost be better off with just a 20g.

    My old plan was to run an 8cm green at like a zillion psi on race gas all day long but things change I guess.
     
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    I've got the SPT intake and a Perrin Inlet, planning on a GM BCS. Would that help?
     
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    Nope. Get either a 70mm APS, 70mm Cobb or Perrin BigMAF intake. Have it installed at the dyno because your car will barely run with any of these installed with a stock maf calibration.
     
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    Aps Ftw Btw
     
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    The 70mm APS is a bit ****tier that I was expecting. Much more MAF turbulence that I thought I'd get.

    Isn't Cobb supposed to be coming out with a 70mm CAI soon? I would imagine that theirs will have a very smooth and linear flow.
     
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    Is this car your daily driver?
     
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    It will be a daily driver. I may end up trading down to a 20G...
     
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    +1 to that. FP will tell you the exact same thing. Greens shine on race gas and lots-o-boost.
     
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    Ahh, see Andrew you asked about boost, not MAS flow. The wrx's pin at 300g/s like mentioned, only way around that is a big MAF. I remember someone was talking about modifying the code to accept 400g/s over on the openecu forums.
    Does anyone know if the prototyping is done for that yet?

    20psi is plenty for a TMIC. I guess the fact that I do 3 back to back pulls makes me a pansy when it comes to tuning TMIC setups. If IAM drops, kc moves, torque drops, car richens/leans out, I adjust the tune so its consistant. Usually means a bit is left on the table, but you have to account for intercooler heatsoak.
     
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    haha thats still my "when I get out of school" plan
     
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    It's been done for a while now. I've had an untested (thanks to Will for selling his car after like 3 days of ownership, lolz) prototype ROM for an '02 for quite some time. Not sure on any other model years, though.
     
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    Really?
    Anyway to send that Rom to me? I would be interested in giving it a crack and there are decent odds I could get to a car that would need it.
     
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    Heh, well I could but it's stuck on my dead laptop. Bah!
     
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    Is the hard drive ok? I'll offer up an external enclosure if it would help you.