FREE datalogging software! TARI Racing Software

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  1. wall of tvs
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    http://www.tari.co.za/about.htm

    Yup, you heard it right -- FREE. I gave it a quick test earlier tonight, using my AccessPORT cable, and can confirm that it works.

    :D
     
  2. Musashi
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    Thanks for the info! ;)
     
  3. wall of tvs
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    Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that currently, TARI DL1 can only read .csv datalogs, and not save them. It can, however, read the realtime data (knock correction, O2 sensor voltage, etc) sent from the car's ecu.

    The next revision of TARI DL1 will include logging to .csv files in the very near future.
     
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    Hey you guys know if i need to worry about damaging the ECU if i use a usb to OBD2 cable from tactrix.com? In other words do i have to worry about my stupid self accidently reflashing the ECU? Thanks for the help this program looks SWEET!
     
  5. RallyNavvie
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    No, that's the cable most folks are using with this software. I think I'll spend the cash on a DeltaDash though.
     
  6. Justin
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    Works for me. Free. Sweet.
     
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    When are they going to have skinned realtime gauge displays. I would love to user customize a gauge set and have it display on a 7" indash screen.
     
  8. slavboy1
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    HAHA yeah that would be hot. This program is pretty sweet though can't believe the guy is giving it away for free and never plans on charging for it. Must be a lot of hours of coding gone into that ish.

    Now readymix are you talking about the AP cable? Cuz the one on this website is a USB cable that comes with port replicator sofware making it into a serial port. THen again why am i typing this aside from it being 330am and i can't sleep i'll just ask you tomorrow in person :roll:
     
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    Some of us still have a serial port. The connector for the AP is a OBDII to 9pin serial cable. It should just work.
     
  10. Justin
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    i dont have a serial on my personal laptop, but i do on my work one :twisted: :twisted:
     
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    That's what the DeltaDash is for:
    http://www.ecutek.com/products/incardash/
     
  12. prezawagon
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    Bumping this back up...

    http://www.tari.co.za You can download the latest version from the Latest Releases forum.

    I bought the generic cable from http://www.tactrix.com/, but if you have a WRX, go ahead and get the wrx version. They've made some progress on http://www.openecu.org towards being able to download ROM images from the WRX ecu with the goal of being able to reflash the stock ECU. The wrx version of the OpenPort cable has an extra pin that supplies some voltage that makes reflashing possible.

    Anyway, the Tari software works well, but is pretty basic for now, no guages for example. But you can get some useful info from it if you know what you're looking for.

    Joel
     
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    It looks like that is just the cable, no decoupler. You can actually get plain OBDII to serial cables cheaper.

    http://www.scantool.net/products/obdii_cable_type_b.

    A usb to serial adapter will provide some protection for your laptop's USB ports, so a decoupler probably wouldn't be needed. But not all the free software out there will work with a straight cable. Tari DL1 should work, but the software at scantool.net requires their hardware (their software sends ascii commands, the hardware converts the ascii to binary, "0A" -> 0x0a.) A lot of free software out there is based on that elmscan protocol.

    http://freediag.sourceforge.net/ Freediag is another good free program. They have a link on the bottom of that page to some of the supported cables, some pages show how to make your own too.
     
  15. FuJi K
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    bring that thing to Firestone, I wanna see what's up with mine. It's too fast.
     
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    Thats Jdm
     
  17. prezawagon
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    Sure, I can bring it down next time, although I'm a little afraid of sitting in your passenger seat with my laptop while you try to figure out why your car is "too fast" ... :shock: :lol:
     
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    Thanks for bumping this for me, I've been looking into this a bit and I'm confused about the whole cable deal, it seems the $80 cable should work for everything, and some seem to think the cheap cables will work....
     
  19. prezawagon
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    Yeah, the cables can be a bit confusing. So, the actual OBD-2 protocol only uses a few of the pins on the cable. The mfgs use other pins for their own diagnostic protocols (such as Subaru Select Monitor, which Tari DL1 uses). So the mfg specific stuff is where some of the differences come in.

    The OpenPort cable from Tactrix is built only for supporting SSM, so some pins are missing, I don't know that it won't work for OBD-2, I just haven't found any software for it yet. The OpenPort cable is nice in that it has a serial to USB adapter built in, and it's the only cable you can use to reflash the stock wrx ecu, although the software for that is still in the works.

    Most ODB-2 to DB9 (serial) cables are the same. But it's not recommended to hook it up directly to your laptop, although that would work for Tari DL1, you stand the chance of damaging your laptop's serial port. A serial to usb adapter might provide some protection (it'll die before your laptop's port).

    So, there's usually some piece of hardware that goes between the car and the laptop to isolate the circuits from each other. Some of them are generic, other's actually muck with the data a bit. The ony from scantool.net does change the data that comes across the wire, so their software will only work with their complete cable.

    Anyway, if you want a generic setup that can read OBD-2 codes on all cars, get something like the package from scantool.net. If you're just going to use it with your subaru, get the OpenPort cable and run Tari DL1 (the new version coming out should be pretty cool.) Tari DL1 will be able to do things that regular OBD-2 never will with your subaru.

    I just bought a cheapy pocket scanner for $40 for reading OBD2 codes on my car.

    Anyway, next time I'm at firestone I can bring my laptop and cable and show you how it works.

    Joel



    some of my bookmarks.

    http://www.andywhittaker.com/ecu/obdii_hardware.htm
    http://www.planetfall.com/~jeff/obdii/
    http://www.openecu.org/
    http://www.tactrix.com/
    http://prj.perquin.com/obdii/
    http://freediag.sourceforge.net/
    http://www.scantool.net/
    http://www.tari.co.za/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl
     
  20. wall of tvs
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    The cable that comes with an AccessPort also works.

    Tari DL1 is pretty much dead, and I doubt that it will have any revisions. Calvin (the guy who programs this stuff) is working on a new project called ECUexplorer that will be much more powerful than DL1. Expect to have all of the functions of DL1, plus the ability to reflash your ECU in the near future.

    ....and all of this will still be free. :shock:
     
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    Rise back from the dead, thread.

    Can someone with this Tari datalogging software help me get a log of my car functions? I would like to know what's up with my ECU now that I have an AP that doesn't make my car any fast4r. Thanks!
     
  22. Justin
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    yes i can. Or you can download EcuExplorer yourself and use your AP cable. You do need a laptop though. You can stop on over to my pad anytime and we can take the wagon out. I'm in maplewood.
     
  23. kickin_81
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    Great! I'll PM you. :biggrin:
     
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    I could help you too, but sounds like Justin has you covered, if you have the AP cable and a laptop, you shouldn't need any help, if you only have a desktop, it's probably best to find a laptop to borrow.
     
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    My visiting sister has a laptop and yes I do have the AP cable but I want someone who knows how to use the software to explain to me what will be showing up on the screen. I'll be meeting w/ Justin soon and hopefully it was just something not related to the AP or else I'm gonna put my intake back on. ;)
     
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  27. Justin
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    doesnt a negative KC number mean you are experiencing knock? you have lots of negatives.
     
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    haha i hope not, i have no idea though, this is my first subaru and i always put 87 in my sti hahaha
    =)
     
  29. Xcelor8
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    We'll it does seem he is knocking under load, I've heard that the kc sensors (WRX specifically) seem to pick up some knock at normal cruising conditions, that may be harmonics. You have an sti, I don't think I heard this being an issue with an sti, you may actually be seeing knock, especially if you are running 87 oct. I don't know a whole lot, I'd liked to see the iam vaules.

    I know very little when it comes to tuning, but I suspect the 87 octane is your problem, don't be a cheap ass there are good solid reasons your car should run the high octane.
     
  30. Justin
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    your a/f correction also makes no sense to me, but putting 87 in may do that. correction is normally around the -1.56 on mine..yours is -48.xx
     
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    UHHH, i was actually joking about the 87. But i will have to try BP gas as this club seems to recomend and see how it goes from there.
     
  32. Justin
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    Ok...look at this freakin boost curve. Thats just sick fongy. FXT FTW
     
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    I'm surprised my FXT was able to hit full boost at 2750 RPM in humid 95 degree weather. :eek4: