bump bump bump.....this setup cost me well over 400 bones ($350 + ~$100 for the tailpipe thingy). If it's not a good deal, call me out on it. I'm pretty sure that it is compatible with RomRaider now, also.
Thanks. Back in the olden days of Enginuity, they only had the LC-1 working. I had to use LogWorks (supplied with the kit) to log AFR with load and all that other good stuff. I also had to walk uphill to school both ways in the snow in June.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that the sweet wooden box is included. The t3hw00t.com sticker on the box comes at no extra charge, lol.
All of the readouts are done on the hand-held thingy -- there is no permanant mount gauge pod (that is the LC-1) with the LM-1 kit. This is more of a portable kit that is geared towards tuners, dyno shops, or people who don't want a permanant mount wideband. For example, I used this back when I was doing road tunes on other people's cars. I can split out the sniffer, but using the sniffer is usually a lot easier than having to screw the sensor into an exhaust bung every time you use it. With the sniffer, you just clamp it into the muffler and run the wire through the trunk or wagon hatch.
pm NUKE.. I think he is after a tail-pipe sensor thing.. I would have said sniffer but then people would be recommending SHIBBS for the job of tail sniffer
The sensor should be in pretty good shape -- I'd guess maybe around 20 hours of use at most. It was only used during tuning sessions and no race gas was ever used with it. The nice thing about the Innovate stuff is that you can re-calibrate the scanner as the sensor ages. I did wrap some hockey tape around the top of the sensor to protect against scratching anyone's bumper.
Oh, I have it all Nate, just that the sensor poop'd out due to condensation on it. Thanks to Moleness, I have a new sensor and ready to go! GL with the sale. This is a must for anyone that does not have a wideband and is tuning.
Ha! we'll have to go for a drive either way. There's nothing commercially available for self tuning unless you go low-tech/old school. So I'm looking into whether or not this is compatible with durametric's software (pretty much the only thing available for logging). A portable wb would be very nice since there's not a lot of room for hard mounting a lc1 or similar.
Sheen -- Look into if LogWorks will work with the 996 or not. That is the logging software that comes with the LM-1 and I think is basically just an OBD-II logger. I know it was compatible with Subaru's SSM since I was able to log my WRX with it and see some parameters along with AFR. I guess there is a new version of LogWorks out that may support more stuff possibly.
pretty much. It's a dual wideband setup with an me7 ecu that stays in closed loop most of the time. The fueling strategy for this car is funky. Basically a bunch of requested a/f and requested load tables and changes to 02 voltage to keep the actual afr as close to requested as possible. Sucks that there's 0 market for openecu/hondata/etc... I'd go with the durametric but it has a really ****ty sampling rate... it's good as a code reader tho so I might still get one. Tom, I have an inquiry out to innovate.
Well even if LogWorks will work with the car, you'd still need to get some sort of cable to hook between the car's data port and a laptop. I'm suprised there isn't much of a market considering the clientele of the 996 turbo (ie, rich nerds). It looks like the ecu is definitely flashable, but I can only find things similar to what Ecutek used to do where you'd just get sent a stock ecu with a base flash on it and maybe a few other things like map switching via some sort of dashboard switch combo.
ooooh REALLY.. then we need to meet up again oh wait.. anyone got some STi goodies they dont need.. ie turbo and cooler
The Innovate LM-2 is the handheld unit that logs OBD2 data. However, you can use the LM-1 and get an "RPM converter" or some other Innovate devices that will allow you to grab most any sensor signal & evaluate everything with Logworks. Logworks can be downloaded for free if anyone wants to take a look at it. Just click HERE. You can also just grab the manual from the same link. FYI, LM-1 is a great tool for tuning and Innovate is unique compared to all others. They have a patented technology that results in faster sampling rate which of course is a big deal when tuning. FYI, any system that works with the LC-1 would technically also work with the LM-1 because they are really the same internally, just that the LM-1 has a display and memory on board for recording data. Todd
Thanks for the info. Yes, Logworks will accept several analogue inputs such as an RPM sensor which would work pretty slick on older cars with carbs and whatnot. However, I was able to log RPM and pretty much anything else within the SSM stream out of the OBD-II interface via my Tatrix cable.
Have you tried the tail pipe sniffer attachment on a car w/catalytic converters? How much does the converter throw off AFR readings at the tailpipe? Every car different or is there always a same degree of change? Other than that, willing to sell just the tail pipe sniffer?
Hmmm....I don't recall if I ever used it on a catted car or not. I'm pretty sure that I used it back when my WRX was at stage 1 and don't recall seeing a huge difference between targeted AFR and measured. http://walloftvs.org/images/dyno plots/hp vs afr comparison.jpg -- stock tune vs stg.1 tune, targeted 11:1. I can sell the sniffer if need be. $65 for that and $200 for the LM-1 with sensor. I really don't want to split things up, to be honest, though. Would anyone be interested in just the LM-1 for 200 bones?
Tom, I've heard 0 from innovate, but from what I've dug up it looks like I'd need additional hardware/software to get the functionality I was hoping to get. Good luck with the sale. Hell of a deal!
No problem; too bad you own one of those crappy cars. I still really really really want a ride in that beast sometime, though. Havlat GOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!! Oh wait, wrong thread, haha.
