GM BCS - is it worth while?

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    I have no problem reaching my target boost with my current stock bcs.
    Does the gm bcs help spool up quicker? Will I really notice a difference?

    I don't want to change if its not going to benefit me in some way.
     
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    I got way better 1st gear spool when I installed mine (td04).
     
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    :yumyum:hmmm not bad for a $30~$40 mod
     
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    make sure you tune it right or....KABOOOOM!
     
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    Yeah, your wastegate duty cycle numbers are way lower with the GM solenoid than with the stock one, so you need to tune for it before you even drive out of the driveway.
     
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    My wgdc right now are 42% at 100% tp. If mine is set at 90% like most, i'm over boosting by at least 3psi. My wg arm could probably be loosened up a full turn.
     
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    your not allowed to reply to my posts until you pay your $11 for lacrosse ;)












    thanks tho
     
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    Just a little info on the gmbcs. The stocker is a bleed system. That means you get full boost to the wastegate right away, and the extra is bled off to keep you at the target pressure. At a point, the stocker just can't keep up anymore. With my 18g i was having some issues, but other have run larger turbo's and it has worked.

    The gm bcs is a interupt style system. That means that boost will not get to the wastegate until you hit target pressure. The will give you a bit quicker spool (similar to a mbc), but it is also more prone to spiking. Once you are at pressure, the bcs will bypass the extra pressure to keep you at target pressure.

    The gmbcs will need a custom tune. Like what was said before, the wgdc will go way down, and you will also have to make some other minor tweeking to get the boost curve smooth. If you can do the tuning and make the chenges, the gm bcs is a cheap mod, but if you have to pay to get it tuned, might as well wait till you have other mods.


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    ^^ Thanks for the explanation, thats what I was wondering, how it worked.
    so your saying its more prone to spiking than the stocker?
     
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    PSH, I'll be there, don't worry
    Wifey schedule changing alot, I told ray that, but I'll just pay up soon, geez
     
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    haha...I think that is a good idea...For all the handrasiers that didn't pay yet...can't reply to any post or thread...lol

    Nuke, u didn't say anything to me, dunno what your talk'in about...:p
     
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    There are a few other compensation tables that NEED to be adjusted if you want the thing to work correctly. If this is not done that it is very likely that you will encounter spiking when conditions change.
     
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    I see how it is ray...i see :cool:

    back to the topic

    I've been reading more about gmbc tuning..and tom did explain some of it to me (on nabisco) and I'm starting to get the hang of it (kinda)
     
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    ^^^ did you put yours on?
     
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    Not yet, been busy with th3 5t1
     
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    Yeah I saw the nabisco thread, easy easy install...I just don't have time to read 25+ pages of junk ;)
    I just ordered mine
     
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    tables such as the turbo dynamics tables and wg comp tables?
     
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    You got it. ;)
     
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    How do you have the plumbing set up for the GM BCS? I'm getting boost overrun to 21psi before it settles to 15. This annoys me because I only have a 2.5bar MAP sensor and this turbo really likes 20+psi.


    Also, will running the top fitting on my wastegate to pre-turbo vaccum help? This overrun is really getting on my nerves.