Gun laws n stuff..

I'm just curious what y'all think about gun laws.
(Sorry bout getting all political btw)
Tbh I couldn't care less but I feel like that's changing since this came up today (my school)

*Not very obvious from the screenshot but there was a shooting threat and they didn't even let out school*

 

OP, do you have a question? Just saying "what do y'all think" is too vague. Do you have an issue with the school lockdown/shelter in place policy?

Also, starting a that like this is...iffy. This is a small forum and tends to be fairly gun friendly, but political discussion on forums is usually not a good idea.

But, I'm your Huckleberry. I have no issue discussing politics as long as people keep it civil.

 

@tangledupinblu I was the recipient of many a swirlie back in the day. Along with getting thrown in the dumpster, shoved into lockers, etc........ Times were dark

 

When I was in grade school, there was a rash of 'smurfing' which consisted of pulling one's pants down while they stood at the urinal.

 

Uh, guns are ok I guess. I went to a school where every vehicle in the parking lot had at least one in it, and every truck had them mounted to the back window. Never had an issue.

 

I think the OP just wanted to get out of some school.

 

This threat was avoided by "holding it" all day and not going in the restrooms at school.

 

I remember in kindergarten or first grade there was a kid who thought it was necessary to pull his pants to his ankles to pee at the urinal. Even then I knew it was odd.

 

Also, why does a conversation about guns always have to be "political"? Maybe I'm too laid back in general, but I could really care less if you own/use them or not. I don't hunt nor have any interest in it (don't really eat any meat other than farm animals) and I sure as hell don't have any interest in killing a person, therefore I don't see a need to even own one. Maybe that's mildly ignorant but that's my story.

 

*enters thread* oh look, a special little snowflake wants gun grabbing because someone made a threat on social media and his safe space magical bubble was almost popped.

 

I should rephrase. It was sneaking up behind someone and pulling the unsuspecting person's pants down while they urinated. It usually resulted in a mess. I'm also not sure what Smurfs had to do with it.

Sorry. My morning caffeine had not yet kicked in.

 

Hmmmmm...that was YOU I saw.

 

Because everything is politicized to death these days, unfortunately. Usually by the foolish and/or ignorant.

 

Worry not, that's exactly what I got from your original post.

 

Back In my day, which wasn't very long ago(class of 03), **** was settled with words or fists. Middle school we would fight in school, and be done. High school was out in the parking lot, and that usually settled things up. 1 on 1 fights for the most part, except the time a kid pulled a knife before a fight, that dude got rushed from all sides, disarmed and then the fight was back on lol. Anywho, why can't people just throw hands instead of bullets?

 

Oh....boy.... *leaves thread*

 

My thoughts have always been the cliche "guns don't kill people, people kill people."

On that, anything is a potential weapon, you could get fatally stabbed with a pencil at school.

Also, with regards to stricter gun laws, my thoughts have always been, the real criminals probably aren't getting guns legally anyway, so what real good would the stricter laws do? It will make the black market for guns even stronger.

Just my politically uninformed $0.02.

 

That's an ignorant view. I mean drugs are illegal and impossible to obtain. Prohibition also proved how easily the government can rid the world of something alcohol by simply making it illegal.

 

Which point was ignorant to you?

What? That definitely ignorant. Illegal drugs are very easy to obtain.

 

The one where I used heavy sarcasm in my response.

 

I was so confused. You never know in these types of threads.

 

I should clarify that my comment was about kids in school.

 

Very good. You never know what colloquialisms from the mid 1980s may have survived.

 

OP , get out and vote coming up! ***@%#&%$×@$@ wait never mind.

 

Sorry I realize I posted this without actually giving my own views...
Really there's no simple answer, I'm not worried about getting in a fight and having a gun pulled on me, it's more of the 'some kid could easily bring a gun in his backpack and shoot up the school's. Quite honestly, I don't doubt it'll happen, especially since we're the biggest high school in Minnesota. The prospect is still scary, but I can't just live in fear on it..
I really have trouble forming an opinion since I think guns can be a necessary right, and if guns are legal they'll always somehow end up with someone with evil intent. The only way to remove the threat of school shootings is to ban guns, which I think shouldn't happen.
Honestly, I need more time to think to have a clear opinion on this

 

This is the scenario that I have an issue personally understanding. Is it a mental issue? Pure evil?

I believe that all humans are born good, and hate/evil is learned or caused by a child's upbringing. So imho, something has gone awry in child rearing. We have to figure out the root of the problem if we want to have any chance of solving the issue - anything else is just bandaid fixes.

 

"In terms of school-related homicides, those are down significantly. In fact, violent crime in general has gone down over the last 20 years in the U.S. However, that is not people’s perception, so I think that is where the media comes into play."

Remember also the media plays a large part in fear-mongering. One of many reasons that I don't watch the news anymore.

An interesting read:
https://ed.lehigh.edu/theory-to-practice/2013/school-shooters

 

I <3 guns

 

I completely disagree with this. People, while not born evil, are born selfish and are inherently self-interested. Selflessness and being good to others is what must be learned.

Many, unfortunately, are not taught to be functioning members of society, much less be good people.

 

There never is. There will always be a bugaboo that simple minds will want to ban. In England, gun ownership is severely restricted. So what have people been killing each other with? Knives. Now the idiot mayor of London has been discussing banning knives. They have even begun designing kitchen knives with blunt points so you can't stab anybody with them. Next will be banning rocks.

A violence-free Utopia in this world is impossible. You have a right to defend your life, family, and property from threat by whatever means necessary. If you wish to do so, your ability should be balanced to the threat. That's often a gun. It's the great equalizer.

However, violent crime, including school shooting, is down and murder by gun has been declining for decades. As has been mentioned, the media has done a disservice by sensationalizing.

You can't live in paranoia or fear. Statistically, it's unlikely to happen to you.

 

I'd just like to point out guns and backpacks have been equally accessible and able to be put together to be brought into schools for a very long time. Its not like either is a new technology.

The size of the school means jack ****, I went to Eden Prairie and had the largest school population in the state at the time as well, we had one lock down when an outsider came in alleging he had a gun.

The stupid lock down could've ended HOURS before it did, but they searched for weapons and the supposed bomb he claimed he placed before they let us out.

You're seeing a result of people wanting attention, and the stupid ****ing media putting the lights on them at full tilt constantly.

 

BTW, OP, I appreciate that you're being thoughtful and not simply knee-jerking to some completely black and white conclusion.

 

Thanks, I just like to think it's better to look uninformed and not have a conclusive opinion than to have an uninformed opinion.

Also generally I agree with all of y'all that blames the media partly, I think it's like shark attacks and jaws. I think I ready somewhere that you're more likely to die from a cow attack or something than a shark attack, the media just plays off fear because fear generates interest. Too bad it's becoming harder and harder to form your own opinions while staying informed these days..

 

Truth. Blind groupthink is frighteningly common and those that don't subscribe are demonized instantly.

 

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