HD DVD or Blue Ray

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HD DVD or Blue Ray

  1. HD DVD

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  1. 02blubru
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    What do you guys think is the best and why?

    What would you buy if you were going to?

    or

    What did you buy? and why?
     
  2. Squiggly
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    hd

    more compatible
     
  3. Vector
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    Need to add an option for:

    Wait until stupid pissing war is over, buy survivor.
     
  4. curly2k3
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    What do you guys think is the best and why?
    Blue Ray-
    Disc storage
    Layers
    Durability
    Video Compression used
    Sound Compression used
    More support


    What would you buy if you were going to?
    Blue Ray player, and just buy a 60GB or 80GB PS3, cheapest way to get into High Def next gen, plus you get the gamer part with a killer HD
     
  5. prezawagon
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    I used to like hd dvd better, but it does seem that blu-ray is winning the format war. And I'd agree with Curly and say that the ps3 is a good choice for a blu-ray player since it is easily upgradable via software, _if_ I were in the market for hd, that's what I'd end up buying.
     
  6. 02blubru
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    I heard something along the lines of warner bros signed up to only put there movies on Blue ray, can anyone confirm that?
     
  7. curly2k3
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    i heard that too, and a few of the companies that WERE with HD DVD just switched
     
  8. 02blubru
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    so it sounds like the war might be coming to an end
     
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    LG makes a hd/blu ray combo if you can't decide... just came out a couple weeks ago. want a full home theater??? this is the company i work for... www.unionplaceav.com ps. don't even bother looking if you're under six figures
     
  11. curly2k3
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    i called it, blue ray ftw. not to mention the whole joke with 360 and the HD DVD drive
     
  12. StartRestart
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    I'm glad I sold my hd-dvd on ebay while i still could, looks like same model with more movies are going for 20$ less now!

    blu-ray has everything hd-dvd can do, except blu-ray has a future, much more advanced technology, you get what you pay for!
     
  13. driftin240
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    If you truly want to read up on why your post has failed...go to AVSForums. More pages full of crap slinging than you care to read.

    Blu-Ray, is not definitely going to win the war, but with Time Warner switching to the blue side, HD isn't going to last long. Paramount is the only thing that is really holding them afloat, and they are probably going to switch over once there "contract" is over. They were in a binding deal that held them with HD up till the point when Time Warner (Warner Bros) left HD for pure Blu-Ray support.

    Both have points, but with the common failures of the "Dual Format" disk (HD on one side, regular DVD on the other) and the fact that they like to skip on certain players...

    For those that like both, Toshiba just released a dual format player to the tune of $800, that plays both Blu-Ray and HD disks.
     
  14. curly2k3
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    all i can say with blue ray is this... 1080 with uncompressed sound is AWESOME
     
  15. driftin240
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    And if this was a real poll, there would be a "Purple" option.

    As HD's laser is red, and Blu-Rays is Blue... Combined people are referred to as the "Purple Format"
     
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    if you're going to buy a player, spend 100$ more you get a super sweet game console! PS3 was smart... i like how toshiba clearanced their players to try to make up for it, clearanced players available for 150$ now hhahahah
     
  17. subytek
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    I have both formats, so I didn't vote. If I did it over I would go with Blu-Ray, now knowing that Warner was going to drop HD DVD. Also like Brian said, AVSForums has more info than you could ever need to know about this subject.
     
  18. esperunit
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    I will put money downt hat HD DVD is no longer around in 6 months. no booth at CES, The Toshiba winter report lady managing the HD DVD department looked like she was going to cry. Warner bros. leaving as an exclusive leaves them with one studio behind them vs everyone else with blu ray. Tack that on with the fire sale of remaining stocks of HD DVD players in a last desperate attempt to get any kind of market penetration and you got death throes.

    Hey HD DVD: It's Not Just a Flesh Wound
    http://blog.wired.com/business/2008/01/hey-hd-dvd-its.html

    Circuit City touts Blu-ray sale amid HD DVD clearance
    http://news.punchjump.com/article.php?id=5464

    HD DVD price cuts only prolong agony
    http://computerworld.com.sg/ShowPage.aspx?pagetype=2&articleid=7467&pubid=3&tab=Home&issueid=123
     
  19. angusracer
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    i'm buying a blu-ray w/my tax returns... and an AVR 2308 :yumyum:
     
  20. subytek
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    I wish the war would go on forever. I have not paid over $10 for any of these. Also I still have 5 more free HD DVD's and Blu-Ray's coming in the mail. Competition is great.:biggrin:
     
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    oh what's your secret???^^^^
     
  22. subytek
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    BOGO's, BOGO's, and more BOGO's.
     
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    ^ indeed please tell.

    I bought a 80gb PS3 so I am going blu-ray. The people at best buy are saying that they are selling 3 blu-rays to every 2 HD DVD. so blu-ray is slowly pulling away. WB was a huge hit to hd dvd. people were predicting that whom ever WB signed with would win.

    Paramount just went to exclusively hd dvds, which sucks becuase now you wont be able to get transformers on blu-ray. however the directors of transformers (cant remember his name right now) pretty much said he would not work with paramount until transformers made a blu-ray appearance. also Spielberg doesnt seem too happy with paramount on this decision.

    I was talking with a friend who actually keeps up with the war between the two. he said the pr0n sided with hd dvd, he is predicting hd dvd to survive based upon that. He was saying that, that was a deciding factor in the vhs/beta war.
     
  24. esperunit
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    The internet has basically killed the media based adult industry, and didn't have anything to do with beta not being successful, that was 100% sony's outrageous licensing.

    the degree to which porn will affect the HD DVD/Blu Ray format war i suspect would be very minimal.
     
  25. Snowbum
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    Blu Ray......only because Sony is supporting it. What sony wants, sony will get
     
  26. Justin
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    yeah i wish the battle would end to so we know which ones to buy.
     
  27. mayhem83
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    I think the writing is on the wall. With Warner going with Blu, the war may not be over but HD DVD is retreating fast.

    Mark Utecht
     
  28. prezawagon
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    Yeah, I think Sony was very smart when they included blu-ray in the ps3. It might have cost them some console sales with the higher price, but it got a lot of blu-ray players out in the public. HD dvd might have had a fighting chance if MS included it in the xbox.
     
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    Don't forget who pushed the battle between vhs and beta, the porn industry. They have officially announced that they are going blue-ray also. So I think HD DVD only has 1 group behind them for now.

    Russ
     
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    yes toshibas recent hd-dvd player price drop is a tell tail sign $149.99, and non returnable, only exchangeable. blu ray all they way
     
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    There are so many misconceptions and opinions floating around about this "format war" and it's hard to keep up with it with so many studios changing their minds about which format to support and even hardware vendors making decisions.

    There is already a definite loser in this war: us. The consumer is the one getting screwed right now and I doubt we will see either format go away completely (compared to Beta for instance) until a new format is introduced. I have been saying this for quite a while and I'm thinking it's going to hold true. If you want access to every title in HD then you're going to need a combo player or one of each. I'm already looking for people jumping ship on the HD-DVD hardware to pick up a used 360 with HD. I already own a PS3, have had it close to a year now, and own every BRD title I want to own and keep up with weekly releases.

    My preference is BluRay if only because the numbers favor it. It has more room on the discs and that leaves it open to more possibilities. Also it doesn't use the archaic DVD-spec for menus and navigation where BRD is using something more akin to Flash and has much more flexibility with its structure.

    I'm still eagerly awaiting Criterion's decision on format. I think it's silly that they're "waiting to see a clear winner" when they adopted the short-lived LD format so quick. They should just choose the technologically superior format of BRD and deal. I'm sure the lobbies for both formats are leaning on them pretty hard but I'm seeing most HD home theater enthusiasts taking to the BRD format more than HD-DVD.
     
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    ha! you beat me to it.

    I'm pretty indifferent to it at this point. I've got an HD tv, but I'm not really chompin' at the bit to buy into it.

    I think the future is in web-based formats anyway (albeit that may be a distant future).

    Either way, I don't have that much time to watch movies and regular dvds look fine on my tv anyway. :dunno:
     
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    Not all DVD players are equal... HD or the "normal" kind. I haven't seen any reviews for the PS3 as far as movie playback is concerned but I know the PS2 scored very poorly. If you're a true videophile I'd look at some reviews before you plop down money on the turd known as PS3.
     
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    Betamax
     
  35. RallyNavvie
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    The PS3 is pretty decent as a BRD player when using a DVI or HDMI connection. With the new update it does a pretty good job at upconverting DVDs as well. Get an HDMI receiver and you can playback SACDs too (we're talking Dark Side in surround here).

    My biggest gripe with the PS3 as a BRD player is its use of Bluetooth for a remote control. If there are BT-capable universal remotes out there I'm guessing they're pricey. And the PS3 remote doesn't allow for control of RF or IR devices. My HTPC remote controls my receiver in addition to HTPC but the PS3 is my DVD/BRD player so I still need two remotes.

    Anyone know of a software that would allow me to use my laptop's BT and IR ports to control devices?
     
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    Your right as far as the difference in each player, but....

    Refer to AVSForums before you bash the PS3. It is highly known among most Blu-Ray fans as the best player for your money. Not only can it have upgraded firmware, and Sony has already released 3 updates concerning Blu-Ray playback, but it is also a gaming machine, internet browser, and pretty much another version of a home computer.

    As far as the race for the win goes, I would rather both stay around. That makes the prices lower for those who choose to buy the disks.
     
  37. driftin240
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    Go to radioshack and pickup one of the USB to Playstation controller cords. Then just go pick up an old PS2 DVD remote with the IR reciever. Then just program the remote to work with it.

    And i'm not sure, but I may still have the IR reciever that I could give to you...
     
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    HD-DVD is dead. What does it have going for it? Player price (true sign of a dying technology), Media price (HD-DVD is manufactured on the same line as DVD, Blu-Ray is not; hence the higher intial costs. Also, BR has a highly resiliant coat on it, minimizing prints and scratches), Internet connectivity (next Blu-Ray spec will have this so its advantage is limited), Interactivity (all HD requires interactive features, iHD; next spec BR will include.)....that's a quick shot of the short list of advantages for HD-DVD. None of which will be a long term advantage.

    I'll say it again, HD-DVD is dead.
     
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    Bold statement. I've been an active member of AVS since 2004 so I'd say I'm somewhat familiar with the place. ;)

    Notice I said videophile in my last post. Most people who fit in to that category don't buy a DVD player that can also surf the internet, play games and have pretty much another version of a home pc. They take look at what counts.... DVD playback. That is where my statement was targeted.

    As for the PS3... it'll be gone sooner rather then later. Look at console sales last year if you don't believe me. Hell, Sony sold more new PS2s last year then they did the new bestest eva PS3. That should tell you something right there. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080117-nintendo-tops-07-sales-numbers-in-industrys-best-year-ever.html
     
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    I like both but blue ray will win its made by sony... do we need to back to beta again...
     
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    HTPC 4tmfw
     
  42. driftin240
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    Just cause I'm curious, have you ever seen Blu-Ray playback on a PS3? It looks just as good, if not better than any stand-alone player on the market...next to the $700 some dollar Sony model...
     
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    well if you read the reviews you would know its actually a highly rated blu ray player.
     
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    I think Blu-Ray is > than HD-DVD. But all in all this format war is gonna screw a lot of people over eventually. I say stay away from both until its over.
     
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    Just because you linked ars...

    http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/pos...c-makes-ps3-the-most-future-proof-player.html

    Sounds like the ps3 is ahead of the game as far as BR playback.