I guess I have no choice....

It is with heavy heart that I bid this forum farewell. I'm not a subaru owner and might never be (although I did have a Brat given to me many years ago that I flogged the hell out of).

After the last few weeks I don't feel it's really a forum that I can be a part of. I came onto this forum because many of my rallycross friends are on here and since I'm the chairperson for the series I figured it would be good to be more in touch with the rallycrossers on here since the vast majority of our competitors are subaru owners and are on this forum. MNSOC has been very good to us on the rallycross front with sponsorships, charity lunches at the rallycrosses and generally pimping the sport for us. For that I thank you and I don't want this post to change that. You guys are awesome. I've gained many new friends since I have been here. It has been great getting to know most of you on here.

I know this will come across to some of you as me being a whiny pansy and frankly I don't care. I just think that the way some of the forum members on here have been treated lately by certain individuals is utterly disgusting. I can understand some of the frustrations with having to answer questions multiple times. But to openly and unremorsefully degrade and demean members that have alot to contribute and are willing to help (and have helped) anyone in the community simply because they request clarification or offer suggestions to certain actions taken is absolutely appalling. I would expect better out of appointed officials. I just don't feel I can sit idly by and watch as my friends are treated this way. I am on plenty of forums where people are made fun of. But this cuts deeper than that.

Whether or not this makes a difference, I guess I don't know. I know I am not the king or head honcho. I know my role in this is very small so this is not me trying to get sympathy, make myself out to be a martyr or thinking that I am above anyone else. I just don't feel I want to be a member of a forum that has carried on in a fashion that this one has. I know and understand why some of the rules have been put into place (thank you Russ for clarifying them in a decent manner to me and others). But when people start to question these rules and offer suggestions and they are treated like garbage for doing so, I (and many others) take offense to that.

This not directed towards the site owner or the congregation as a whole. There are just certain members in higher ranks that can't seem to filter the insults when they are in an authoritative role. That's something that good leaders are able to do. And I know there will be posts after this one with the "boo-hoo" smilies and "good riddence to bad rubbish", and plenty of other names being hurled in my general direction. I'm pretty sure that this post probably won't make it more than a few hours without being deleted also. That's fine, I don't care. Take this post however you want, I just had to get it off of my chest. And I also wanted to wish everyone of my friends on here good luck in the future. I know I will see them again plenty of times. And I hope this doesn't diminish those friendships. I just don't see any other choice but to step away from this particular forum. Thank you for the time that you have allotted me here.

If anyone has any questions for me for rallycross or in general want to get ahold of me, my email will always be [email protected] .

Erik D

 

well put.

 

sorry to see you go... you gave so much in so little time...

 

I say.. delete his account then.. his choice... simple.. next problem!!!


cause personally I am on the other end of this argument... its people like this and others that makes me want out of Subaru's and not building exhaust stuff and helping others with mods etc.... you know.. seeing what I can offer the members and not what I can get out of the forum instead

 

no nate you can not stop building exhausts and helping me lol

 

Good bye dont let door hit you on the way out...

 

what in the hell did I miss....

 

Drama. You know, the kind that's always going on here.

 

Fancy, I'm gonna go make myself a nice pair of cheese dogs and pass the hell out. I love everyone here... But that's because I took the time to get to know people. Like a big fat turbo.... It takes time to reap the rewards. This ain't v-tech yo.
And Jason. Awwwww I like that happy little guy.

 

I just cooked some chicken and rice it was good.

 

^ Spaghetti sauce and American cheese is just like Chef Boyardee. Phenomenal.








Sorry the cold shoulder was handed out when needed. Whiners get less and less sympathy by the day. Life is a game that needs to be played, so is your career, college, internet, sports, club, etc, .......................................................................................................................................................... I see a pattern emerging here....

 

yeah there is drama on this site as is there on any site (usually why i just don't say anything at all)..i mean just look at what TCStangs.com has to deal with (joe gensta LOL U MAD ) best of luck..hope you change your mind though...

 

wow, dealing with people...


It can be tough, easier to make stuff and fix stuff.

hard to deal with inflated egos' and inferority complexes. Seems that is what the internet i used for these days.

I agree, too much drama...

where is that damn LOL thread....

 

Its fine, I wont be around much longer either, not @ this rate, we get 5 new retards for every 1 normal n00b. Its like tom said years ago, "as soon as the wrx gets cheap, its going to become the next honda civic" oh man are you right tom...

 

If all the veterans of the "club" leave it will NEVER make it. If you like subarus and want to see this "club" become a full on club I think we need the veterans to stick around and hand out the occasional slap in the face to the newb to keep them on track. That and when people are new, and they f-up, ban them for f's sake, thats why we have that ability.... they will either never come back or they will come back knowing they screwed up!! Either way it will keep the dumbness to a minimum. (fingers crossed)

to the opening poster: you gave it 39 posts, way to give it a try...:laugh:

 

erik is a very reasonable guy - i can understand his frustration on this site. There are a few people who seem to have trouble controlling what they say behind the keyboard and then there are just a lot of r-tards on here in general. I've met a lot of cool people from this forum which is the only reason I put up with it.

 

Are you ****ing serious right now? Delete this post already please.

 

Erik and Davenport Racing... seriously I hope you guys decide to see it through a little longer, I am sure you both have a lot to offer this site/forum/club, but seriously... this is the internets, it shouldnt be taken seriously unless you know the person is being honest, this site does rattle some cages a little, especially when someone starts a thread like this..

I stand behind what I said earlier.. if you wanna leave then why not just pm a mod and ask to be deleted and leave... or just realize that there is always good and bad... this site tends to rehash and rehash the same crap all the time, so the 'older' members who have seen it over and over have minimal tolerance for it, so they blast.. I am guilty off it obviously...

All in all... if there are jerks at a rally-x are you gonna cry and leave that too??? as clubs/sports/events etc grow you get a influx of things good and bad... deal with it like a man...

I say lock this thread up..... move onto the next thread full of hate against the club

 

This might be the first "I'm taking my toys and going home" thread I've seen where the OP actually might be serious.

 

lol! best post ever! subarus are not hondas!

 

BRIAN, I had to quote you in my signature!!! that was funny.

 

The truth hurts doesnt it? Luckily I would consider you the lucky 1 in five.

 

I couldn't agree with you more. And this sucks.

To the OP. Yeah there is some annoying stuff on this site and I don't post a whole lot here because of it. But it can be sifted through. And if you can get past that you'll see that there are some great and knowledgeable people here and that good topics and posts do exist.

I say don't throw in the towel yet

 

my thought's exactly. there's always drama on this forum, but i haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary except the vendor complaint thread.

 

we should just refuse to sell our cars for less than $20,000! That would keep them from becoming the next Civic!!!!

 

I'm thinking of selling my 06 wrx for $18,900..... but that is an 06'....

 

You all have got to be kidding me. Those of you that are "going to leave if things keep going this way" need to grow a pair. There are idiots and retards and all sorts of people you dont want to deal with everywhere...you can't "quit" or hide from it or do anything like that, its life...deal with it or go drink some drain-o and call it a day. Bunch of cry babies.

 

Whoa, what a thread and of course, in true MNStupid fashion.




I know a lot of you people don't know Erik because he mostly involved in the SCCA and other organized/sanctioned clubs, but having people like him around can help raise MNSOC and even MNSubaru to a whole new level. (Ya know, something greater than a local waterhole for forum trolls, hand raisers, and pansy ass punks that never do anything besides post crap.)

Don't worry Erik...you don't have to leave. You can easily go into your user options and add people to your ignore list, and then you don't have to waste your time sifting through their useless posts in order to get to the valuable information. In fact, I can send you a list of people that are the top trolls of the forum that really don't do anything besides act like little internet thugs.

:laugh:

 

Be sure to include your name in that list ya hypocrite ...

 

I too would like to see said list.

 

Oh snap dragons.

 

UMMM... what are the odds, I would bet on scuba dave and hedge my bet with a little bit put on chet....

 

:laugh::laugh::laugh: BAN!!! :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Seriously Chet, why don't you just sit down and stop talking for a little while?

 

I don't personally maintain a list for myself since I'm a mod and have to look through the forum and at every post possible. However, anyone can take a look throughout the forum and should be able to quickly determine who's posting the most useless information on here.

LOL. Audit my posts, you'll see that a fair amount of time I'm not just posting useless crap. Unfortunately you won't see the posts in the officer and mod forum where I post the most...but on the public forum I don't go out of my way to simply puke on my keyboard and hit reply like some people do...

Chet...kudos to you...you finally found an avatar that suits you!

 

The only reason he would come out on "top" is he would once again get butt hurt and use his "ban button" out of self defense to "teach" me a lesson. I have purposely not posted or been a part of this site for a week just to avoid the internet drama that is our forum. I even skipped the MNSOC BBQ (like anyone cares) to avoid all the drama that would ensue after they heard about my car problems and pure misfortune I had the last couple of weeks. Excuse me if I am coming off as a prick but at least I know I am, I love how some people flaunt around here like there **** doesn't stink. More often than not this site feels like high school with all the **** flinging that goes on about one another, and I am not just talking about the internet gossip either ... the **** said behind peoples backs is getting ridiculous.

 

AT FIRST i THOUGHT YOU WERE JOKING.... than this, Chet.... I got past back biting in highschool, besides... when you are tawnted publicly you know who your real friends are!

I heart you chet, you and I (I hate to admit it here) are much alike.:biggrin: