little pic i came across earlier today. Jason get crackin' on that MR wagon. alittle more info: http://www.pistonheads.com/roadtests/SakerRSC.htm http://64.82.22.49/default.asp Highlights: "six-cylinder boxer engine" "500 horses capable of bending the space-time continuum" "more grip than I dared explore." "There’s a stereo" "backing using extra-sensory perception is essential" "only going to be 150 of the road cars"
Welcome to two years ago. That thing is pretty much what would happen if I were to win the lottery today.
Mpg?...... That thing would be terrible in the snow. Very impractical. Flat boosted 6 in a WRX wagon?
How can you say it 'looks laggy' That's an STi EJ257 in the back. Not sure what ESX used for a turbo, but I'm sure you could look it up. The car is a Saker SV-S, a rolling chassis costs 45k all you need is a motor. Don't think I haven't looked at this as a rockin street monster. They make an SV-1 variant for street use.
yeah the race version is a 6 cylinder though. Pretty sure I would take one with an EJ257 or an EG33/EZ30R
You would be better off going with the STi block. The Saker only weighs 1700lbs or so. You wouldn't want something too torquey as it would probably throw the car's balance completely off during acceleration.
yes, was reading about it in the current issue of drive. Was somewhat underpowered (100 hp less then everyone else) and weighed some 200lbs more. so it was a lost cause
I heard that the 12 cylinder indy motor has some serious design issues. basically the pistons moved in the same pattern as a V motor, and not the balanced H patter. So it was basically a V with a 180* separation which gave it some really weird balancing issues and these issues in turn made for bad handling in the over all car. This is the info that I had heard. If they made it a true boxer 12 it would have been bad ***
well with Subaru's boxer engines being so impressive and reliable in imprezas how come no one/subaru hasnt developed a true 12 cylinder boxer?
lol well no thats not what i meant..not subaru in particular but they could have a high end/exotic model for the wealthier but thats not really expected.. i mean like why havent Porsche or any other exotic manufacter produce any boxer 12? im just wondering.. is it hard or not worth it or something?
ferrari made a boxer 12 at one point...i cant remember what model it was in and i'm too lazy to look it up but i'm sure it was in the 70's or 80's
According to Wiki these are the Ferrari models that had the flat 12; 365 GT4 BB, 512 BB, 512i BB, Testarossa, 512TR, F512M
Porsche used flat 12's in some of their racing cars in the 70's as well. Taken from Wikipedia- "The Porsche 917 endurance racing car (introduced in 1969, for the Sport category) was powered by an air-cooled flat-12. This engine was an evolution of the Porsche flat-8 boxer engine and used identical cylinders to those found on the 908, but differed in that it used a V12 type crankshaft. The domination of the Porsche 917 over the V12-powered Ferrari 512 probably influenced Ferrari, because they returned to the flat-12 in 3 litre water-cooled form for their prototypes and Formula One cars. The Ferrari flat-12 design was successful and influential especially on Italian manufacturers, including Alfa-Romeo, who were also successful in endurance with a flat-12. The Tecno Formula One flat-12 was a failure, however. A 4.4-5.0 L 180° V12 was later introduced by Ferrari in some of their production models, including the Berlinetta Boxer and Testarossa. Motori Moderni designed a 3.5 litre flat-12 engine for Subaru, which would be used in the 1990 Coloni Formula One car. The Coloni?Subaru was not competitive and did not start a Grand Prix. The Motor Moderni flat 12 engine also appeared in detuned form in the Jiotto Caspita supercar. This only appeared in a single prototype and was not put into production. In the early 1990's Mercedes-Benz built their 3.5-liter M291 flat-12 for endurance racing. This engine employed a clever cylinder-head design with the exhaust ports on the top, facing straight up, resulting in the exhaust system located above rather than below the engine (the intake ports are located between the intake and exhaust camshafts). This facilitated in a much lower mounting height in their racing car, the C291 (and later C292). Unfortunately, the engine suffered from oil scavenging problems early on in its development, and although the problem was eventually solved, changes in the rules at the ACO in which the car was entered, effectively doomed the future prospects of what could otherwise have been a competitive engine." This page-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_12_engine
