Your wagon can do it easily in the snow...again, Fuji does something like that in his wagon on tarmac and winter tires. Try this in a safe parking lot. Get a camera man, Go full throttle, Yank e-brake, Counter steer in opposite direction Play with throttle as it bounces off redline Wallah, you got a gymkhana video...tee hee hee. *joking aside * I still think it can be done regardless of what set up you got...you just got to know what you are doing and the skills.
Yes, it's mostly a mater of car control. Now a car setup will go a very long way in determining how easy you can do it as well as how well you can sustain drifts, how well it transitions side to side, and so on. Setup is important in allowing the car to do certain tasks more easily. Drifting techniques never change, but the application of those techniques through inputs vary from car to car, things like how much throttle, how much steering, how much brake, and the rate and time of application. These things vary. The car will limit what can be done in terms of what methods can be used, the amount of sustained angle, the amount of duration, what kind of space is needed, and even pacing are all influenced by the car. For example, you can drift a full-sized fwd sedan, but you're limited to using on a few techniques, and due to the way power is applied, you're really only drifting one corner at a time since it's mostly just momentum level drifting. At best you get it sideways, apex, slide to the exit, and you're done. You bleed off all the speed and just put out of the corner. If it's a softly sprung car, it may take a lot of road area and time to perform moves. Tire grip will play a role too in terms of what you can get away with. A simple example is on gravel with two tires, one with high side bite and one without. The one with high side bite would allow a tap of the brakes and a rapid flick of the wheel to initiate a slide. The tire will bite hard and whip the car sideways very quickly and in a small amount of space. A tire with low side bite has a big problem. It has a tough time generating enough sideways grip to roll the car. Instead you're stuck doing a wide feint maneuver using a lot more road width as well as time to get the car to rotate. Depending on how low the grip is, there will often be a mix of braking and moderate feint to get the car to rotate at all. Plus if you are too forceful and manage to overwork the tires, all you will do is understeer. Keep in mind that videos like these are often pieced together and done through many takes. A person make take 5 or 10 tries at a specific shot and the best successful one is chosen for the video. With enough takes, one can make crap look good. Now the driver is obviously very good, and the vid really isn't a pile of takes pieced together, but there is the magic of editing with these kinds of things that tend to hide all the flaws. I was really hoping he'd come back and do the same with the other car.
he did a few takes as you can see already made tire marks where he drifted in most of the scenes. but great vid indeed!
It all begins with lots of practice and of course a set of tires to waste :biggrin: [YOUTUBE]JHChEb67yb4&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]
Ughh... look at all these porschers, lambos, Feraris, GTR, mercedes, M5s and even an STi playing with the super cars... [YOUTUBE]kQU4hVCuWa4&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]
