So I just found out my car has a rod knock. I bought the car on July 10th from the bloomington chrysler dealer(2004 wrx), it had 27k on it and now has 29k. I know my 60 day warranty is up but I was told the Factory Warranty is still in effect til next summer? 5 years/60,000miles correct? Will they replace my block or no? Here's the problem, when I bought the car, it came with a bov, intake, and a vf22. Should I switch everything back to stock or just take it in they way I bought it? Let me know what you guys think, thanks! ANy help will do.
What was the date the car was actually put in service? If you are still within that 5 year period, I would switch back to stock and take it in.
So, I shouldn't bring the car with the vf22, bov, and intake on back to dealer I bought it from? But I bought the car like that from the dealer.
Should I take it to the dealer I bought it from even though the 60 day warranty is up? Or should I just go straight to subaru?
If it were me, I would call the dealer you bought it from first to see what recourse they might offer. If you get nowhere there...go back to my previous post.
well, I guess I have to find stock parts in order to take it back to subaru. Thanks for the help man.
I have asked my service manager here at walser subaru about warranty issues pertaining to aftermarket parts. This is what I have concluded: Any aftermarket part that is added will void the warranty that, the particular part is attached to. So if I were you go back to stock. There is some instances where an aftermarket exhaust won't affect your transmission from blowing out which they couldn't void your warranty there. Subaru will still have to prove that what ever aftermarket part is causing your issue.
if the aftermarket parts were on when you bought it, they should have been aware of that when taking the vehicle in. they have to do something for you if you didn't add those parts.
I'm confused. What dealer are you taking it to? The selling dealer or a Subaru dealer? I know that in the past couple years both bloomington subaru and morries minnetonka subaru have replaced shortblocks on wrx's with mods. Both pretty cool service departments as long as you treat them right. GL with the fix. Otherwise do this... http://www.mnsubaru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28170 :biggthumpup:
that's what I'm thinking. Were there any aftermarket exhaust parts on it when you bought it (uppipe/downpipe specifically)?
That is completely incorrect from a legal stand point. Unfortunatly, unless you want to lawyer up and pay some (large) legal fees, that's most likely the real answer. (Oh and you still likely wouldn';t win the case with an aftermarket turbo. M-M is really designed for maintence parts, like oil filters)
yeah if he was covered under the dealer he bought it from but if he's goin with the powertrain warrenty from the factory then no you have to have stock parts according to that!
That is what I was told from my Service manager at our store. He told me the same for my sti when I bolted on the hks bov. I am just repeating information from him. So I apologize if it is incorrect. Best bet is to take your car back and see what they'll help you with.
I heard that same thing. That they need to prove that the aftermarket part caused the issue to void the warranty. They cant just simply look at it and say, "oh it has exhaust...your warranty is void". You can get a lawyer and say prove it, or so I have been told.
I bought the car from a chrysler dealer with the vf22, intake, and bov. I already talked to the dealer I bought the car from and they said take it in to Subaru because of the remaining factory warranty. So it would be IDEAL to take the car in, in stock form?...
I was thinking more along the lines of leveraging the fact against the chrysler dealer that they may have sold him a non-road legal car with no cats. My buddy was in a similar situation with a mazda.
Well then he should take it up with the dealership he bought it from. Since they told him to take it to Subaru, he better tell them that they should foot the bill. The Subaru dealer/SOA shouldn't have to pay a dime in this case, imho.
OH, I agree man. It's those jackwits that screw it up for all of us that DO need legitimate warranty work.
Agreed. Personally, I'd take the car back to the dealer you purchased it from. Have them contract with a Subaru dealer to fix the car. Or -- just push to get them to agree to pay for the work done at a Subaru dealer.
I like this idea. Even if it has an aftermarket cat...isn't that still illegal? It was my understanding that factory cats are not to be messed with unless over a certain mileage or they were defective. If there is no record of any defect...go after the dealership for selling you a non-street legal car! That's still kind of a weasel move though...
I agree with taking it back to the original dealer and attempt to have them coordinate with a Subaru dealer to resolve the issue. However, chances are they will not do to much for him. Honestly, I don't really see a problem with him approaching a Subaru dealer and working with them on the problem if needed. SOA plans for a certain amount of their cars coming back for warranty work so I don't see why we would yell at him for taking it back for help. With that said, if the Subaru dealer identifies the issue as a user error (ie low/no oil + beating the piss out of it.) then it's up to him to fix on his own. Lesson learned. On the other hand, if they find out there were issues with the motor and it wasn't his fault then let them take the normal course of action and fix it under warranty. I don't agree with us beating up kondan and making asumptions without allowing the professionals the opportunity to look into the problem first. Now if he came on here and bitched that he was beating the car and SOA won't warranty it...that's a different case. (or if we knew the history of the owner and his driving habits)~everyone knows what I'm talking about here. Personally, I'd simply call a Subaru dealer and explain the situation. I don't really agree with putting stock parts back on and hiding the fact the car has been modified. I will say this...purchasing a modified car from a dealer, especially a dealer that doesn't have a clue about that type of car is a huge risk. (just my 2 cents) Here's a similiar case (example): In 1998 I purchased a Subaru Legacy from Burton Volvo knowing the motor had the same problem...slight rod knock. The book was 16K and they sold it to me for 9K...due to the motor issue. Before I purchased the car I approached the local Subaru dealer & SOA and I explained the situation. They agreed (before the purchase) it would more than likely be a warranty and I had a 90+% chance it was going to be covered with no cost to me. That came right from SOA..and then repeated message from the Subaru dealer. The car only had 30K miles on it. I guess what I'm trying to say is...let's not hang him just yet
I don't think it is illegal cause we just bought a 2005 evo VIII with an after market exhaust with no o2 sensor. Apparrently as long as it abides by the emissions laws then you're fine. For example, that wouldn't fly in california. Correct me if I'm wrong.
A little info about the cat rules in MN... You must install an OEM catalytic converter, regardless of mileage, if: · There is a replacement under recall or warranty (less than five years or 50,000 miles) or · The vehicle is returning from overseas use. The federal Clean Air Act [203 (a) (3) (A) and (B)] does not allow anyone to replace a catalytic converter with “replacement pipes”. Improper removal or installation of a catalytic converter by any individual could result in stiff fines and/or imprisonment. The only time when removal of a catalytic converter is allowed is when the vehicle is being shipped to a country that does not sell unleaded gasoline. The vehicle owner must have a letter from the EPA authorizing the catalytic converter’s removal. Vehicles sent to Canada or Mexico are not eligible for this exemption.
Um, did you miss the part about the vf22 being on the car? There's no way in hell that the car is going to get the shortblock replaced on SOA's bill.
