"The Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor is on its way out. Behold law enforcement's new hero: the badass car you see here, code-named E7. Billed as the world's first purpose-built law-enforcement patrol vehicle..." http://blog.wired.com/cars/2007/11/the-carbon-e7-r.html http://www.autoblog.com/2008/10/09/carbon-motors-releases-real-shots-of-purpose-built-e7-police-car/ Forced induction clean diesel engine 300Hp and 420Tq 0-60 in 6.5 sec Top speed of 155mph Aluminum spaceframe structure Bulletproof doors and dash panel 75-mph crash capability Built-in night-vision capability Forward-facing infrared lamps Automatic license-plate recognition 360-degree video surveillance Rear-hinged rear doors for safer suspect ingress and egress Built-in radar Radiation and biological threat detectors Ergonomically correct cockpit Will meet or exceed the driving performance of current vehicles Will provide 40 percent improvement in fuel efficiency LoJack GPS Built-in LED emergency lighting Large touch-screen main display And more http://www.carbonmotors.com/
giving the police a lazier way to tag speeders and be more stealthy about it.... I disaprove of those functions. the car is nice and built to protect the cop.... but the speed gun / infared laser crap is bogus. I'm thinking about jammers more and more
Not going to happen. The biohazard features alone just put it outside of the budget of most areas. Cute concept though.
The infrared is most likely there to either help locate suspects who're hiding and to help augment the NV system. It's not a speed acquisition tool. Squad cars already have built in forward and rear facing radar, that's what those small white circles are you see in the lower left sides of the windshields as you face them. I realize that I come from a different point of view on this, but anything that's going to keep the officers safer and help them do their jobs is a benefit to all of us. Integrating the MDT into a touch screen in the dash is going to help minimize officer injuries in the event of a crash, as the laptops they use now contribute to injuries and fatalities. As far as cost goes, this is supposed to be as cheap or cheaper than some of the options already out there. The cost of purchasing and then modifying a street car for police duty adds up very, very quickly, not to mention the cost of actually operating them. If there is a purpose built vehicle with the options they need already built in or designed to accommodate them without major modification then that's a cost savings for the dept right there, not to mention the features with officer (and civilian) safety in mind. Biohazard detectors aren't that expensive, and it's something that can be transferred from an old car to a new one. Some of the technology like bulletproof panels is already an option from Ford for the Crown Vics. Other parts, like the nightvision are already commercially available to customers and come from the factory on many cars. I hope that this goes into production and soon. But that's just me....
Outside of some styling gripes (trying too hard to be angry/aggressive), if its cheaper to buy and cheaper to run, i'm going to agree with Mr. Shorten. It can only be a good thing.
I'm with you on that one. Hell, why not just throw in a decibel meter right on the nose so it can hear that your exhaust isn't stock. Hey, how about a pollution detector so it can tell that you're running catless too!! Cops aren't even working for their paycheck anymore.
Give them an automated ticketing system as well lol so they dont even have to get out of their cars... oh even better how about giving them an automated arresting system to :laugh:
If they get this you'll never confuse a cop for grandma. However, this will never happen. They're trying to hard. Cops need a simple motor, a stout automatic and drivetrain, a beefy chassis and suspension, and a ****load of space. That is still the CV.
I worked on a squad car today... the fantasy to be a Police Officer and cruise around in one all day was lost fast... the crown vic sucked.. it was an 08... I can not imagine how they do all they do and still push all those buttons.. hah a ha talk about texting while you drive to the extreme but this new car... makes me start to think again
I can see it both ways.... Good: Better LEO protection, Better fuel econ, bright a$$ emergency lights... Bad: New company = maint. questions? <- who's taking care of them? How much are they going to spend on new cars, as are debt is already high enough!
Welcome to a few years ago! Have you ever seen a "Speed Camera?" Go to California, I'm sure Readymixx has seen at least one. Get caught by the camera, get a ticket. That simple!
those have been in Australia for years.. my bro has had quite a few.. we know it was him driving.. you can see his bald head and huge nose...
well, cops haven't been to bad to me. i give them my respect, and i tell them sorry to waste your time. but i dont really feel like paying for the stuff i problably dont get to try myself.
I've heard those cameras at lights are going to start enforcing "rolling stops" for turning right on red. If you don't come to a complete stop, you will receive a ticket! I would have so many racked up by now!
I thought many places ruled those illegal because you couldn't show who the driver was and the tickets were being sent to the owners of the cars.
Only in Minnesota. In Minnesota, cameras are unconsitutional (state constitution). /Minnesota gets some things right //It's just not the slower traffic
Yeah, I really don't like the idea. I wouldn't mind cameras to identify trouble areas in an effort to better appropriate human resources, but I think there's far to many problems with using them to issue tickets in absentia.
Well there's still plenty of cameras. Nearly every major intersection has a camera, used for accident reconstruction (which is good) Downtown Minneapolis also has like 100 cameras. they're just not used for tickets. (FYI, if you got a red light ticket in MN before they were banned you can now get it expunged. I think you also might get your fine back).
Definitely good. I'm all for reasonable measures to prevent crime and right victims that doesn't intrude on individual's rights and privacy (and I'm aware of how open to interpretation that phrase is).
Did they use lead for bulletproofing? Those stats are pathetic! The pictures scared me, and then I looked at the numbers, and realized it doesn't matter how scary it looks if I can outrun it.
lol, this reminds me of the Top Gear race across Japan in the GTR. He uses a fake face to bypass the speed camera issue. I think this is a good thing. If they can prove that it is an improvement over the crown vic we should go with it. also no more worrying if its a taxi cab or a cop car....
There's this funny thing called FLIR that they give to all of those helicopters: Forward Looking Infrared, and the great part is that it doesn't matter if it's day or night, it'll pick up on the car and the guy when they try to run. Plus they've all got searchlights and radios, and I have yet to see anyone outrun a Motorola. As far as the performance stats being "pathetic", they're better than a Crown Vic and not far off from a Hemi Charger. Plus the stated 40% improvement in economy, that's a pretty damned good improvement indeed. There's a lot of equipment in those cars, not to mention the fact that they've armored it for PD use. As for you outrunning them, it's not going to happen. Thanks to wonderful things like the 800 mhz radio, stop sticks, traffic and the PIT maneuver, not to mention the fact that they're trained in pursuing people all tend to make a pursuit just another way to add up serious charges to what would've been a ticket at worst.
Thats it I'm sold, time for a career change. Where do I sign up............The toys on this car are amazing. So Brian any idea how many years does it take to for a police car to get 250k miles? I would think they rack up pretty quick. If MPLS gets them I'll see if my Brother inlaw can bring it one of our events and chase some Subaru's around the track w/the lights flashing and sirens blasting. LOL
From what I heard on these, they won't be sold to the public after they rack up miles. Instead, they may replace components as needed or when done they can part out the car and send the stuff back to Carbon Motors for recycling, reuse, etc.
LOL, I wasn't looking to buy one. I was just curious the life of a Police Cruiser at 250k, how many years it would take them to put on that many miles. To me thats a pretty high standard considering the abuse and weather challenges in some states. Thnx for responding.
Ah, gotcha. From what I've seen, most depts get rid of them around 100k miles, although some may have different standards. Those cars get driven HARD though. A World Rally Car probably sees less abuse. Also depends on the department and their coverage area, a larger city that sees more action will rack up miles very quickly indeed. I would say they're somewhere in the 30-60k per year mileage range.
Remember that many of teh FWD Impalas in NYC break because of how some NYPD officers stop when responding to the call. They slam it into park. That this killed transmissions isn't shocking, that the CV took this abuse without much complaint IS. Police cars are treated like rentals execpt that if you run them into something you don't have to pay for damage. Also you often have to get somewhere as quick as possible. Combined with massive amount of idling. /Ever done 80mph on the streets of downtown minneapolis?
Like I said, these will not be going back for resale to the public. They're a PD only use car. Once they get to the point they're no longer serviceable they'll be broken down and likely crushed or sent back to Carbon motors for recycling.
