Offshore drilling ban to be lifted

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    Too bad this is not going to do anything except pollute shores. Oil companies are pushing hard on bush so he is going to give in, or he is getting kick backs.
     
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    meh, one of the major reasons it was a ban in the first place was because the governor of Florida...another Bush didn't want the Florida shores all messy with oil rigs.....

    either way we are all heading down the path of destruction until we truly focus on environmental friendly solutions....which will take another 100 years and a 3rd world war...before it actually becomes serious enough for a majority of the people to actually care enough to do anything besides just bitch about it.
     
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    if it lowers my gas prices by maybe 30 cents, it will be worth it in my eyes, POLLUTE BABY POLLUTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    no for real i dont care as long as my wallet is heavier
     
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    This!!!!!
     
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    We all know that the world will be coming to an end in 2014 anyways, so who cares.

    I want my $$$ and I want it NOW
     
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    yeah true that it will take a third world war to change anything. But I think it's better to put more money into alternative fuels that drill more. More alternative fuels will lower the demand for oil hence lowering the price of gas. But it always ends up that oil companies buy all the new technology and patents for them and burry them.
     
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    either way i'm gonna enjoy it now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! with my gas guzzling v8s, my catless exhaust, and my 2 strokes.
     
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    Uhg, this isn't even news, it's just a political ploy to hide the fact that Bush's Administration has basically no energy policy.

     
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    Being of Mayan descent, I take offense to this. My fingers aren't fat. Neither were my ancestors', Hootieblowfishzlie and Awpeeweeexposedeww.

    Its 2012.
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    I subscribe to the catless pollution club, so like 3rik said, i needs mah moneys.
     
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    technically this sentence structure is confusing.. cause many 3rd world countries have internal wars.. but i guess you all mean World War 3 to happen not a third world war!!! :biggrin:

    besides e85 is an alternative which then screw up other areas in farming seeing as to produce enough fuel from corn you actually need a lot more corn then is viable or worthwhile from what I have heard...

    I say we make all our cars run on Nuclear power
     
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    Electric cars that get the energy from nuclear power.
     
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    More corn fields = more humidity = more thunderstorms/rain = flooding = increase in deaths from flooding = less people driving because they are dead = lower gas prices

    e85 is a killer.

    honestly though, e85 was a good idea. Doesn't it cost more to refine e85 than crude?
     
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    Gas needs to be cheaper period. ... . . . . . . . . I would take the oil from the saudi's , and Iraq and anywhere where else I can get.
     
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    And how do you propose we do that? lol
     
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    just bomb the crap out of Iraq and take their oil.
     
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    Wait,.........what?
     
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    Obama has the answer. $12 dollars a gallon.
     
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    Jack up the price so no one can afford it. Then we will HAVE to invest in cheaper energy...but seriously

    I enjoy my catless exhaust...I like oil...everyone uses it and likes it. It's just expensive...and America, well, she's correcting herself.

    I think a shift more towards raising the standard of living here, like say, raising the minimum wage for a start. Maybe now isn't the best time to do that, but it would be nice if it were to run parallel to inflation (can't remember the term associated with that concept).

    Aren't oil speculations fun!!! Everyone say it with me...oil speculations. I love it when Iran tests missiles, banks go in the tank, Israeli officials spout off about attacking Iran...then we just watch the prices go up and up!

    "Little minds think and talk about people.
    Average minds think and talk about things and actions.
    Great minds think and talk about ideas."
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    not sure if i have an opinion the drilling but the gas and oil industry has made great improvements in the last 15 years as far as safety and efficiency. trust me. ;) i would think the chances of pollution or accidents should be less.
     
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    There you go trying to make sense again.
     
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    I believe it's a worldwide conspiracy to destroy the U.S. dollar. Iran with the help of Hugo Chavez will hold the oil fields in the middle east hostage, once it establishes nuclear tipped missiles, gas will really go up and we will find a reason to go to war. Unless the people of this country demand drilling here. Granted, this will make Exxon, Bp and your state and national government ghetto fabulously rich. But it's a sacrifice that we'll have to choose. I think we can find ways to satisfy the tree huggers and the global warmicists eventually. If they don't want to build more refineries, there even less likely to build more nuclear power plants to plug in their Priuses and future electric cars in the years coming. So more domestic drilling may be required. Once the oil producing countries around the world see that we are doing it ourselves, don't you think the price of oil would drop because of less demand and dependancy of them. Don't believe the hype that new refineries won't help us for 20-30 years.

    I fear the enemy has been studying this,

    "Therefore one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the most skillful. Seizing the enemy without fighting is the most skillful."
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    Off to make me an aluminum beanie.
     
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    no one is plotting anything against US except US government itself. Iran is just waiting till Israel does something stupid. Domestic drilling will not do anything there is berely any oil left in US.
     
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    And how do you know there is barely any oil left in the US?
     
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    provide me with proof of this.
     
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    will find some stuff in a bit.
     
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    You guys might want to look into real estate in North Dakota. My coworker's family have been offered money just to survey their land. And Marathon just bought 200,000 acres.
     
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    Apparently it takes a while to come up with facts since you have to find that one news source that is 5 or 6 links deep from some blog that says that oil supplies are low in the US and also uses no facts to back it up.
     
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    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4542853/
    no one really knows how much oil there is in the ANWR. And if they start drilling now it will take years (many years) to make any difference at the pump. If we will keep using as much oil as we do (we i mean the whole world) even drilling in ANWR will make no difference at all. China will start using more and more oil everyday same goes for russia and india. The only way US can stop being dependent on foreign oil is by drastically decreasing use of oil and use more alternative fuels and variety of them. Building more Nuclear (not nucelar) power plants that are safe and efficient and develop better batteries for cars.
     
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    but by driling in anwr we can reduce our dependency on foreign oil that's the point, but more importantly we can stockpile it so when the arabs run out.. yippeee for us... besides how will china use more if we drill for OUR use?!?!?!
     
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    US imports more than a half of oil it uses. ANWR will provide maybe 5%-10%. If we only use the oil from us sources it will not be enough even for a very very short time.
     
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    Thats what Energy Department has to say about this.
    price of oil right now is close to 150 a barrel. So 149.5 is not much different.
     
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    still any reduction is a reduction.... obviously e85 is great for us subaru guys and their warranty and thats without hihg amounts of ethanol.. not to mention the amount of corn you would need to make enough ethanol would feed every 3rd world country so then you would be taking food of the table.. back to square one
     
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    i don't really have a good informed opinion. but if we did drill for oil here in the US and did find some. it would make headlines im sure and it would have some effects in the oil futures stocks, so wouldnt us just finding some oil help lower prices even if the actual US oil didnt get to us for a few years?? Just a guess/thought
     
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    cause the left wont allow them to drill anywhere in case the moose dont make babies or the dolphins grow an extra fin!!!
     
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    50cents is nothing, it will be like 5 cents a gallon at the pump. But how much it might harm animals and the habitat in Alaska is huge. its same as the holiday tax reduction McCain wanted to do that will decrease gas prices by 18 cents or something like that. That would have given people 50 savings over 3 month time and billions of dollars that are needed to fix bridges that are falling apart would be gone.
     
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    There some smart people who decide on that kind of stuff. They know that drilling places like ANWR will only cause more damage than relief.
     
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    but if it goes up 5c per gallon everyone pisses and complains... but you are spitting at 5 cent reduction.. and the impact on wildlife... what about the ones that lived here before we built... we dont care now do we!!!

    ok I am done
     
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    Ok, here's a link to wikipedia about ESTIMATED oil reserves... I'm not going to analyze the numbers because I'm not knowledable about this kind of stuff.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves#Estimated_reserves_in_order

    There has been oil 'discovered' in the US, and it didn't really make huge headlines. I think maybe they knew about the ND reserve before, they just found out there's more there than they though...

    http://blogs.moneycentral.msn.com/t...kota-oil-discovery-called-biggest-in-u-s.aspx
     
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    what are you talking about?( animals or people?)

    People complain but dont drive less or buy smaller cars. 5-10 dollars a tank is not much of a difference but when we will see gas go for 5-8 bucks a gallon that will be different. and no drilling will help
     
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    btw, if you haven't read **** that you are posting, the ND reserves will require a unique type of drilling that isn't being used and hasn't been really implemented... but its not like you didn't know that or care to realize that.
     
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    so i guess we got 12 years worth of oil in US?
     
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    hey I spent $70+ gas this weekend driving around looking for a trailer.. hell i dont care.. I got to drive my car with no IED's going off.... ducks for cover as thread now goes crazy