Currently I am a bit frightened. After starting my car and beginning to drive i heard a clicking noise, figured it was something rubbign against my tire, a piece of that plastic shielding underneat the car (my stuff was kind of cracked anyways). However the noise stopped the second I put my car into 2nd. I only hear the noise in 1st gear, not reverse, not 2nd only first. It sounds like its coming from under the hood of my car and it sounds like a piece of hard plastic thwapping over and over again, it is kind of loud, atleast inside the car. This repeated clicking noise just started today, the only thing i have done to my car is remove the intake silencer, but i did that like 2 weeks ago and nothing had happened. My first gear ground a little bit and made some noise when i shifted into sometimes, but i never heard any cracking and was told that the Subaru transmission was designed with a first gear that was not in sync to prevent over revving or for whatever reason. The fact that this noise only happens when I am in first gear is what leads me to beleive the problem may be with my tranny? (Yikes!) I have begun driving without first gear because i dont want to further any possible damage. Does anyone have any idea what the problem may be??? Please Help ASAP!!! If it helps, i have an 02 WRX
sounds like your tranny....what kind of mileage? does it get hard launched often? I'd HIGHLY recommend a fluid change, and add Rislone ENGINE treatment. this works best for bad synchros, but can help all sorts of other things. after having some good luck with rislone in one tranny, I know have it in every single subaru MT that I have owned (4? maybe 5...). it even saved our '94 leggy wagon tranny....when we first got it running, we couldn't get it into second gear, a fluid change, with a half quart of rislone, let it sit overnight. and it works almost like new, and has ever since. sorry for the ramble...but rislone is amazing tranny stuff (even though it says engine treatment :laugh: ) also, does the noise change depending on load? engine rpm/speed?
The noise does become quicker as the RPM increases 46k miles, launched very few time, from very low rpms (never over 3k, and never just dropping the clutch, and really only a few times)
congratualtions, you have lost a gear tooth. Time for a new first gear or gearset. Drain the tranny fluid and see what comes out on the plug. Did you buy the car used? If so it may not matter how many times you dripped the clutch on it, the previous owner could have done it hundreds of times.
ouch that sucks. i was gonna reccomend usin that GM synchromess. i hear that stuff is ambrosia for subie trannys. try draining the tanny fluid (as zak said). if you get some chunks/teeth out you could try to refill and drive it. it might solve the clicking but would only be a temporary soloution. (this brings back memories from the ice race)
Lemme just start by saying c'est la vie. Took it to a tranny shop, and asked a couple of other mechanics i know, this seems to be the consensus. So, 10.3 hours of labor at 89$ an hour seems to be whats gonna happen, plus parts of course. Atleast i get a free loaner car (Oh boy, a minivan....eh better then nothin.) They are gonna check out the rest of tranny while their in there, if im spending a grand i might as well have em replace other parts while there in there. I am wondering also since they are going in there, how accessible will my clutch become? I figure if the car has been beat on so much by the previous owner to lose a gear tooth in first gear by 47k miles, the clutch must be burnt up too. If its pretty readily accessible, how much do they cost? I might as well get ahead of the game while their in there on that, i hope i can get at least a little bit of this back when it comes to resale (yeah.....right). Any other reccomendations while im these guys are hacking away in there? Thanks again for the help guys, now i have a man in florida whom i have to hunt down and stab for being such a deceiftul prick....... Oh as for the clutch thing, im terribly familiar witht he structure but can the just the clutch plate be replaced or am i going to have to buy a kit and replace the pressure plates etc.
Does it sound like a plastic piece is sputtering or something? Because my car has been making funny noises like that since before its first oil change. I thought it was the speakers going bad or something. Of course, my mystery sound doen't change according to my RPMs or shifting.
you need to talk to legacyPGT. And I found a used WRX tranny ith 25k miles (Gearset in case, driveshaft, rear diff) for $700 when i was looking. there are deals out there.
I suppose, but the thing is, if they rebuild the transmission then i have all new parts inside, if i buy a used one, then the clutch coulda been dropped a thousand times and i might have to go through this all over again. Its still about 450 dollars worth of labor to have them just swap the transmission, so even if i could find one with 25k miles, its gonna cost the same to put that in as it will to have brand spankin new pieces put in. But what i am curious about is an RA gearset, people keep telling me to put one in, what is it, and how much does it cost? And where would I even get one?
Gruppe-s.com RA gear Set $1400...I can probably get them through my vendor I'll call Monday and find out...Unless u want the PPG geart set (way stronger than RA) $3200. By the time you install and get all the necessary parts the RA would cost about $2300 labor and extra parts, and $4000 for the PPG one.
Just like what Zach said buy a used 5sp. tranny for about $600-$700 and install it. So you would be around $1200, but it is all stock...Ebay has one right now @ $450 ending in a day, but it is in NY. Also I would put your old Tranny case up for sale...I'm sure someone will buy it for like $150-$200
yeah if you are going in there, and have some extra money it would be worth it to beef up the tranny with a stronger gear set. Since the weakest point in the wrx is the tranny, wont hurt to strengthen it.
I think id rather have my current tranny with new parts then another used one, because the ones the guy found on his computer all had more miles, and this is something i need asap i dont have a lot of time to look around, looks like RA or PPG is gonna cost to much, as for selling my old tranny case that sounds like a good idea, ill take any money i can get, where would i sell something like that?
How much are u paying for the rebuild? I'm assuming your gonna use stock internals for the rebuild? If that is the case the RA Gear set would be a good idea for not much more, I don't think...Since u should replace your bearings, rings, synchros and seals anyways...
Right now its 10.3 hours of labor at 89$ an hour so like 940 for labor plus parts they estimate maybe 1300 or 1400 with rings synchros etc, because currently we think that it may only be that they have to rebuild first gear, wont know for sure until wednesday.
I do have the PPG on hand...but it is pricey, plus I do have all the necessary parts for the install.
agreed...that sounds like a pretty steep quote. get in touch with bikerboy or legacyPGT. both great guys who know what their doing and would probably get you a deal.
Matt sound like a great guy and a better alternative then the quote that im receiving from the tranny shop, however i have had no experience with him or his work so I was wondering if you guys could let me know what kind of experiences you have had with him? Not that i doubt his abilities or professionalism, its just that other then Dream's car I dont know what kind of work he has done and since im not the only one who is paying for the repair, (the other person who is helping me pay for the repair) would like some references as well.
He is good... but that is just what I hear... and as far as the qoute fromt eh tranny shop... the qoute is reasonable if you ask me.. after allthey are a business... I dont complain that a computer geek charges $100 an hour to install or un-install programs on a computer (never have its an example) when you can do it htrough windows step by step yourelf... but I am not a computer guru as are not most people who pay... but you pay for experience and expertise... besides businesses have overhead... thats why they charge.. to pay bills... they dotn open a shop to do it all free... thats my 0.02 as a business owner... But I would go with bikerboy if you are after good work for cheaper... but remember the transmission shop would HAVE to offer a GREAT WARRANTY... what do you lose on the cheaper price int he long run.. weigh up the differences then you can make a good decision.. workmanship wise I think either way you would be ok...
I have no problem with the quote from the tranny shop, but it seems bikerboy is going to be more, cost efficient lets say, the only thing that does make me a little wary is im unsure of what kind of guarantee i have on the work, i know he basically did allt he work on Dream's car and it hasnt fallen apart yet, so thats why im asking for references(sp?). I think that that is probably the way i will go though. Some quick questions however, other than getting whatever is broken fixed, what should i have replaced while he's in there? I plan on having my clutch replaced while were at it but i have heard things like synchros etc, a list with how many of each would be great because i figured i would ask buy the parts from drftin240 because of the deal they offer.
matt's done a lot more than dream's car. But you need to have some amount of faith to have an independant mechanic do work vs a dealership. me personally, I pay people I know to do work rather than pay a dealership. I know that Matt or Mike aren't going to screw me and i know that they know how to do the job right. I've never had matt do any work on my car but I wouldn't have any problem letting him do anything to it. Mike rebuilt my entire tranny for less than you're looking to pay, is ASE certified, has built his own rally cars and several good street cars and I don't lose sleep over my tranny.
well put.... while you are in there if you are saving a bunch spend some of that money you are saving to upgrade the extra little things in there as well like the synchros etc.. do the clutch while it's apart maybe... unless it is like brand new...
I was wondering however, what are the "little things" that I should replace? also... I have a feeling if the car has taken enough abuse to fry first gear, my clutch probably looks like this....
Please don't waste your time/money with an RA gearset since they are not much, if at all stronger than stock. Andrewtech Automotive (gearboxtech.com) has had as many as four blown RA gearsets in their shop at one time. The gears and/or teeth are no larger. Just save for PPG or a 6MT.
The RA gearset ahs a thivker tooth root than the pre 05 gearsets, but it does not make it especially stronger as the teeth tend to break farther up anyways. The main advantage it has in gearing. It will make the car accelerate faster with the gear multipication but will take away some highway mileage and generally make the car run higher rpms in shorter gears. Depending on the gearset, 5th may limit you to a relatively slow top speed (110 mph on some people's cars, some of them cruise at 70mph at ~4k rpm in 5th!)
Well dropped off my car in Blaine today so Matt can get to work, I find out tommorow how much i get to spend on parts...Yay!
Well I just thought everyone should know, cause I know you were all worrying.... Matt fixed my car and I finally have it back! It works great, driving ti with a new clutch is like a brand new car, especially since the old clutch was worn down to the tabs. (If i can find my camera ill throw up some pics of my busted 1st gear) The throw feels shorter, the cluthc is smoother, its like a whole different car. So thanks a lot to Matt aka Bikerboy for all the help, btw nice Hayabusa with nitrous, that thing looked awesome. P.S. was gonna wait to ask, my shifting feels a lot stickier, like i cant smoothly shift between gears, the shifter kinda stops then i push again before it goes into oh lets say third. Not a big deal but its just not as smooth as I remember. Could this just be parts still breaking in and new fluid making its way around? Any ideas while were on the topic? But mostly Bikerboy FTW! And also thanks to the guys at MTKA Subaru for the deal on the parts, cant wait to test drive an 06 STI when i show up to return the extra stuff.
lets just say that your first gear couldnt have been worse than this: and your clunky shifting will pass as it breaks in. I have an 02 gearset in my yellow car and afet 1k miles on the tranny i put redline 75w90 gear oil in it and all teh shifter slop vanished. I'd break it in with normal ear oil though.
