Problem with downshifting/and no overdrive!!

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  1. Rexarew
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    Rexarew Subie Girl

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    I have a problem with my 02 wrx automatic. I've searched and searched threads and still haven't come up with anything that could help me out. So here's my problem.... :emo:
    My car doesn't seem to want to shift into overdrive and then it doesn't want to downshift. I took it to a couple of places here in Rochester. Even the Subaru dealership (Clements). Clements didn't have an answer for me other than it is my "aftermarket intake" and wireing" and that I should just drive a stock car. But that they wont touch it. So I'm really angry! :mad:
    I bought the car with an injen cold air intake. And then me and my boyfriend installed a front mount intercooler. However, after I left clements I bought an aps cold air intake that is designed to go with my frount mount. We switched that out and while doing so we notice that the MAF sensor wireing had some frays and such. I've never messed with any of that so the owner before me must have screwed around under the hood because I've had to correct and replace things that they wrenched on.
    The car will not go into overdrive and when driving around 45mph it will not shift correctly. Sometimes it goes to 6xrpms before downshifting at 45mph. I did find that the new intake has helped with some of the issues but now I'm stuck.. My car can not make it to the cities to have somebody look at it. I need to get it looked at asap!!!

    CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE COME TO ROCHESTER TO LOOK AT IT AND HELP ME OUT WITH GETTING THIS BEAST RUNNING CORRECTLY?????
     
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    readymix ...Lest ye be trod upon... Staff Member

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    The MAF, Frontmoujnt, and Intake have nothing to do with the transmission and associated wiring that I know of. So that is just the dealership blowing smoke up your ass. You said that's Clements Subaru in Rochester? I'll be sure to tell everyone I know to avoid that ****hole like the plague.
     
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    Ok, many odd things with your post. First off, I would NEVER install a aps intake without a tune. I have yet to see one of their cai intakes not lean out the car. Even the 65mm "stock replacement" intake throws the maf reading way off.

    As for the shifting thing, if you are doing 45, if the tranny is in overdrive and the tc is locked up, you should be around 17-1800 rpm. If you hold the pedal to the floor, it will downshift to 2nd and you should be up around the 5k mark. Now, the tranny usually shifts around 66-6700 rpm. A 3rd to 4th shift takes place right around 120 mph. So if you floor it and the tranny doesn't shift till 6k, you must be going around 100 or so. Once you are over 60mph, the car will only downshift to drive. That means if you are already in drive, it will not downshift. I think you need to go back and re-check you speeds and rpms.

    Also, none of those parts will mess up the tranny, but they will mess with the tune.

    Russ
     
  4. Rexarew
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    I planned on getting it tuned. I asked around here in Rochester and nobody has been able to point me in the right direction. Who could I get to tune it?
     
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    readymix ...Lest ye be trod upon... Staff Member

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    What EM are you running?
     
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    do what RUss said.. check your speeds etc...

    if not check your fluid level... make sure you have fluid in it, and that it is clean... then if that all checks out it may be an ecu issue.. bad communication.. not sure if the Subaru trans runs off the ecu like others... Some DOdges you need to relearn teh shifting after touching anything on them?!?!?!
     
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    maybe check the connection at the TCU. not really familiar with what it does but a loose conenction there could make the tranny do wierd things.
     
  8. Rexarew
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    Rexarew Subie Girl

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    I plan on trying to get a guy here in town to reflash my ecu and then do a pro tune to match the mods. After I leave there I'm going to get my oil changed and get the tranny flushed. I checked my fluids so they are ok. But I'm sure that the car needs the tranny flushed. It's a high milage car and what ever butt monkey who owned it before me didn't seem to keep up on the maintance of it.
    The speeds and shifting at which I'm having issues with are exactly what I posted. That's why it is so weird and messed up. Hopefully I'll get it figured out by Wed.
    I really appreciate all of your suggestions and help. I enjoy being a member of a community that has so much knowledge and supports fellow members. This is my first car that I have ever really gotten into. I never thought that I'd be a car girl but I've enjoyed owning my subaru every day of this last year that I've owned it. Even though I've had problems, gotten stuck, had to research, research... It's been very rewarding for me to say "yeah, I helped or yeah that's my car!" Thank you guys for helping us newbies out in our time of crisis!
     
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    Hmm.. just a guess here, but I thought the automatics wouldn't go into overdrive until the transmission is up to a certain temperature. Normally that wouldn't happen unless it's winter and really cold out. But maybe there is a temp sensor for the transmission that is bad and the TCU thinks the transmission is cold?
     
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    Like I said, those rpm/speeds can't happen. The only way you can be at 6k and 45mph is if the car is already in 1st, or your tranny is fried. If you are doing 45 and you mash the gas, it will down shift and the revs will go up. I am thinking that it has already downshifted and you just didn't notice. If you are not running a modded VB, the shifts are not really that hard. Also, if there is 90k+ without a fluid change, that is also not helping.

    Russ
     
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    Russ has a point that the shifting is pretty suttle. Hopefully a tranny flush will fix your problems. sorry i cant be of more help on teh subject. I guess my expertise lies in replacing auto trannies not fixing them....
     
  12. Rexarew
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    Ok, so the guy I was going to have reflash my ecu cann't do it. He works on all imports but isn't set up to do this on my wrx. I talked with him and he said that reflashing the ecu and tuning it will solve my problem and to just do a tranny flush afterwards. Okay, so that's fine with me. But he told me that Clements is the only place in rochester that can do this for me.
    .... I called there to take my chance at hoping maybe they can do this for me. I talked to the service managers and they didn't know what the heck I was even talking about and sent me through to one of their techs. Talk about a bunch of crap. He asked me what that was... And then told me that they cant do that there!
    Can somebody please suggest a place or somebody who is eligable to do this? I can not make it to the cities. Somebody please!!!
     
  13. Aegis
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    Aegis TAKE IT!

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    WTH he told you that the dumbarses at the dealership down there, that you had already had a falling out with, would know how to tune your vehicle?

    *heavy sigh*

    i am afraid I don't know anyone in that area that can do what you need. :(
     
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    Oh, I've had many problems with this dealership. But I always hope that it will get better. I actually had them take a hood scoop and the freaken reciept out of my car and then have the nerve to tell me that they didn't touch it! And then go..." Oh look what we found in the back of the shop!" Crap heads!
     
  15. WRX1
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    Ok, well a ecu tune is not going to fix your tranny problems. The tranny is run off of the tcu with ecu input. Like I stated before, I am missing some info. the rpm and speeds do not match up. Also, what kinda of EM are you using?? is the car not driveable?? if it's not drivable, how are you going to get it tuned?? i am trying to help out, but I know I don't have all the info. I have been running the 4eat in my car for 6 years and have tuned a few more, so i know what to look for.

    Russ
     
  16. Rexarew
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    -em=stock
    -rpm speeds are what I stated. it shifts really hard.
    -Car drives but I feel that this is doing damage. Once I get above 40mph it acts weird.(kicks back really hard w/shifting, not shifting when it should. and every once in a while the check engine light comes on, sometimes it flashes neutral light and then just lights up as drive.)
    -I don't know who to contact for a tune, or where I should go. Or what my issue really is with this car.
    -When the dealership did a code test nothing on the tranny showed up. They stated that it was engine issues with the maf sensor and the wireing and intake. I got a new intake since the other one was modified a bit. So I just bought a new intake... Which did help with the shifting go smoother.
    ???? Thank you for trying to help me!
     
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    Cold air intakes and fmic's with no em makes baby jesus cry. Just my .02.