Does anyone know which size spacer or amount of washers I will need to make my car sit level with the s techs?
What Shibbs said. S-Techs suck harder than a V12 powered Dyson. Get some real springs that aren't going to kill your struts (and your handling).
thanks ill give the 3/4 a try...whats so bad about s techs? im not an autocrosser and could really care less about handling and already have dumpy kyb aftermarket replacements that were $77 a strut. If i'm not really looking for performance i dont see whats so bad about them ive been running them for a year and a half with no problems and they make no noise at all but have the saggy butt like every other wrx out there. They ride just as smooth as my friends 02 with blue prodrives on stock struts.
Where did you buy the struts for $77? I might need some new struts sometime soon, very off topic but would love to know.
http://www.partsgeek.com/catalog/2005/subaru/impreza/suspension/strut_assembly.html i have only replaced the rears not the fronts yet
You sound just like every other S-Tech owner I've ever heard defending the fact that they paid money to make their car handle worse than stock. Like Curly said, the saggy butt issue is caused by running sedan springs in a wagon. I have a feeling that the issue you're referring to is the fact that the wheel gap between the front and rear wheels isn't 100% even. It's the fender lines, not the suspension. If it is sagging, it's because the spring rates on the Teins suck, and spacers isn't going to fix that problem. It doesn't matter if you are or aren't an autocrosser, the springs themselves are crap. Way too much drop and they're hardly stiffer than the stock springs. They lower the suspension far below where the geometry should be and worsen the handling. I'm guessing you've never been in a vehicle with a decent suspension setup, because if you had you wouldn't be settling for what you've got now. There's a lot more to suspension than how smooth it is. If you and your friend with the Prodrives were to do the same road course, he'd be putting down faster times because his car wouldn't be understeering all over the place. 5 seconds of searching on any Subaru forum will bring up a number of responses, but even the Nasioc FAQ on suspension has a thread devoted entirely to them. You can find it under "Downgrades": http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=171928
I didn't post on here to get torn apart and I'm not defending the s techs performance at all, I asked a simple question sorry my taste in cars is different than yours but you don't have to lecture me like your my dad. Yeah they might suck for handling and I "downgraded" my suspension but I like what I have and go ride my bike if I wanna corner fast and have an adrenaline rush. I wouldn't care if I lost in a race to a stock 2012 civic I'm not a race car driver or autocrosser I use my car for commuting and thats it. Since these "screw" up my geometry so much by lowering too much how do you explain people lowering there car on coil overs way lower than s techs lower it? And I don't understand how you said the saggy butt is caused from the sedan springs in a wagon...number 1 I drive a 05 WRX sedan, 2 from my knowledge I order springs for a 02-07 WRX sedan, and 3 my front sat higher than my back even with the stock springs in it? So I guess I'm just confused about it all except for the fact that my suspension blows and I downgraded my car with s techs and they are the worst springs you can get. Evidently I don't know how to mod a car for crap but you don't have to tear me a new one cause you don't like my set up all I did was ask a simple question and evidently it turned into a catastrophe for you cause you sound like Mr. suspension himself. So I guess I'll be putting my stock springs back in this weekend, do you have any suggestions on how to fix the saggy butt for those? I really just want the car to sit level and honestly I could care less on how it handles or what I mess up with my geometry.
Easy there, any sort of "tearing apart" is your inference, not mine. I'm guessing you missed the part where I told you that your issue is likely the fact the the fender arch lines on your front fenders are higher than your rears. I'd bet that your suspension is level, it's the fender arch lines that are leading you to believe that it's not. The "saggy butt" that you refer to is when someone puts sedan springs on a wagon. The wagons have a higher spring rate in the back and a taller spring to compensate for the extra weight, so when you put a sedan spring in it doesn't sit right and you have to use the spacers. As far as your comment about people putting in coilovers and lowering them, they usually have a higher spring rate to help, but it's still a downgrade. You can only bring the suspension geometry so far out of line before you start doing more harm than good. Run whatever you want or whatever floats your boat. There are better options out there than what you're running, and we were trying to pass that along. Not to mention that the spacers you're wanting to run are fixing a non issue. Go back and re-read what I posted without letting emotion get in the way. I wasn't yelling at you, I was explaining. Good luck with whatever you decide to run. Next time you ask for advice I'll make sure to sugarcoat it and put in lots of smilies so you know I'm not trying to be your father.
There was no emotion when reading it I just don't understand why people take your simple question into a I know everything instead of just answering the question. A simple "I wouldn't recommend s techs for lowering a car, but as for running them you can't really resolve the sag issue" would have been just as helpful instead of telling me how I downgraded my suspension and s techs are the worst springs you can buy comment.
The stock fender arches in the rear aren't has high as the arches in the front. A perfectly level car will have LESS FENDER GAP IN THE REAR. The easiest way to tell this is by looking at the body lines on the car. (I can't believe you're making me break out photoshop~) Yes, that line is level, yes I measured it on mine. (I did sweet painter's tape grafix, y0.) lolololol and lololol If you really want to fix it, and you don't care the quality, the cheapest route is to put spring clamps on the front, to lower the front to the level of the rears. If you want to do it correctly, there are companies that make "saggy butt spacers" (no lie, that's what they're called) and they are available in several widths. That would essentially raise the rear of the car. So. Low = clamps on the front. High = spacers in the rear.
buy some 1/2in or more saggy butt spacers that sit on top of your rear struts and be done if all u want to do is even the wheel gap a bit from front to rear - $25
