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  1. Chux
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    I just recently filled up one hard-drive, and bought a second one (both SATA interface) for large storage to back up my parallel ATA master drive (like to be able to reformat/change OS's often). but my secone, new, one doesn't work. The new one is 3.0Gbps SATA, and the old one is an IDE adapter, so running much slower. my MB is a year+ old, and may bredate the 3.0Gbps SATA...

    my question is, can a 3.0Gb Sata hard drive 'dumb down' and work on a 1.5 Gb system? I assumed it would (like USB 1 vs. 2), but am hoping I was wrong.

    My RAID program detects it, it's listed in the POST, but not in My Computer...
     
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    way off topic....you have 666 posts...and your talking about SATA....n? :lol:
     
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    Yes. For the record, the 3.0Gbps throughput is theoretical only, there are no drives that in practice get anywhere close to that figure. SATAII is a bit of an improvement on SATA but not drastic.
     
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    Do you mean the little my computer icon? look in device manager, and if it see's it there it is a format comunication thing. (simple answer....)
     
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    I SATA on your PATA! Haha! oh wait, that's not funny :?

    Anyway... your problem is you only have SP1a installed. You must install SP2.
    [Story time!]
    A long time ago in a computer far far away there once was a 2GB limit for certain OSs. It had to do with HDD radius limits and file system (FAT) limits and BIOS limits and such other useless things... Then there was other limits too, back in the day, such as: 3MB, 10MB, 16MB, 33MB, 134MB, 528MB, etc. More recently, modern computers have dealt the 32GB and 64GB limits. All of these, esentially, have their own little fixes which have been built into Windows XP! (thats why XP = teh Xtra P0w3r!) haha.. NOT
    [/Story time!]

    Anyway, my friend, you are experiencing either:

    #1) The 137GB barrier limit! This is fixed only with SP2.
    or
    #2) Maxed out your PATA channels, foo!

    Windows has a max limit on # of PATA channels, I think its 5. So that one you have on the SATA to PATA converter might be a problem.

    ~Dan

    p.s. Google clickly for more info ;)
     
  6. Chux
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    only 2 working HD's installed, 1 PATA, and 1 SATA...

    I had 3 virtual DVD drives, tried deactivating them....

    I had 5 card readers displayed as removable discs, unplugged 'em

    even tried unplugging the existing SATA drive, so I had the PATA one running windows, and this as a backup, nothing

    I have XP SP 2

    not displayed in the windows explorer 'my computer' window, or device manager, but is in my RAID program, which is a windows program

    maybe I'll try setting up a RAID array, and see if that works.....but first I have to back up all this crap......crap, this could make the MNSubaru video difficult!

    and yes, I did some research before I posted this, and got exactly where I am now. I found the 137Gb limit, that's why I removed the one drive, so I'd be back to 80Gb.

    I have quite a bit of computer knowledge, I built the machine, I'm starting an electrical engineering degree. but somethings, I just can't figure out...
     
  7. Grimm
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    that limit is a single drive mounted refernce point.......
    I am running 240 GB (SATA RAID 0), 300 GB Single Drive ATA, and another 160 dump drive (ATA also) on one system 500 GB on another. Chux if you want to borrow an external drive to back up I am sure I have one around, because that is the fastest way. Did you install the car specific SATA/PATA driver (I am guessing you did) but if that is on there you should see the phisical existance of that drive in windows even though it cant use it initialy. You need to partition it within windows using that cards driver. I know this sounds realy weird, and it is. This isn't ATA anymore and differnt people were coding things slightly differnt. I have a few computers where I can just switch the SATA drives, but move to a differnt chipset and sometimes they will not go.
    Anyways for fun does your RAID controler have JOB RAID? Else if the drives are not the same then doing a 0, 3 etc will not work.
    I am sure you will get it, but if you have anything you want a differnt perspective on just ask.
     
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    is the sata on the primary chain?
    i can invision the adapter playing havoc as a slaveto your boot drive.. it would probobly creep at that point.
    try making it a secondary slave.
     
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    this is kinda out there, but cant you get a PCI driver card for the HDs that are over the 137GB limit? i am alittle outdated w/ the pata/sata/peta/ata stuff, so i am not sure if that card would be much help.
     
  10. Chux
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    the drive alone is only 80Gb, so though I shouldn't have trouble with the limit anyway.

    I've tried plugging this true Sata drive into the #1 SATA slot, and unplugging the other one.

    I'm going to start researching about returns through newegg....maybe the drive is bad.
     
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    could be...... although i thought bad parts only came from napa
     
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    What drive is it?
     
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    Hitachi Deskstar
     
  14. Chin
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    Hmm, don't hear about too many problems with the IBM drives...
     
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    Just an insider secret for everyone....

    Don't buy retail boxed drives. If you want the best drive, buy the white boxed "OEM" drives. All the drive companies sort out the best drives to send to the OEMs and leave the rest for distribution to places such as Best Buy and Micro Center.

    Now you know. :D
     
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    Can you see it though Fdisk? Or try partition magic. From what you said earliler that the raid detected it that you should be able to see the drive and put a new partition on it.
     
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    I had problems with a hard drive install on an older p.o.s. computer, and the whole time it was due to the hard-drive not being formated correctly.
     
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