Scammer Central forum concerns

Well though out idea, but I would consider changing the title of the forum. Scammer forum just seems to direct guilt. Just a thought

 

Isn't that a good thing? Then threads only come up if someone is absolutly sure that s/he has been scammed, not if they think have been scammed or something along those lines.

 

The idea of this forum is to have MNSubaru members share their grievances. Like with all online purchases, purchases on MNSubaru are "buyer beware." This is a serious forum, and will be moderated as such.

The MNSubaru moderators and the MNSOC officers have taken a "hands off" approach. We have provided this forum for users to share their problems, period. The moderators and officers will do their best to ensure that threads are limited to the parties involved, and that each side has an opportunity to post their side of the story. Readers can take threads for what they are.

As stated in the forum rules, threads with a satisfactory solution must be communicated to the MNSubaru moderator team, and they will amend the OP to include relevent info. At this time, they will not be removing/deleting threads from the forum, just closing them with the solution/end of transaction details posted.

Thanks.

 

great idea..

 

Thanks for working this into the layout guys. Its a big help.

I'm not sure I follow the reasoning behind not allowing others to post in the thread, it seems that made a huge impact on my ability to get ahold of Tim to get this ball rolling.

Hearing others had had issues with transactions, getting it out there to the public eye, really, like I said, helped out.

 

if others had issues with the same person, than they are directly related to the issue. this, AFAIK, is just to rule out the "oh snap"s and "IBTL"s and other useless crap. your original thread about this issue was full of that crap, that really had nothing to do with the problem, and was not helping it get resolved. This forum allows it to get out in the public eye, but really not out for discussion, which is exactly what your situation needed.

 

Yes, exactly what Chux said.

 

I think its a bit sad that MNSubaru has to implement such an area now.

But I like the reorganization (newbie stuff on top) and the rules & purpose of the Scammer Central area seem very clearly thought and laid out.

 

Unfortunate, yes. However, a lot of larger forums have a scammer type forum and as MNSubaru & MNSOC continue to grow we need to do our best to protect our members from possible issues.

 

too late for you

 

Personally, I think a feedback forum would be better.
One thread per user, both good and bad.

 

I say add that too when Russ gets time

 

this could be added ... very useful.



If You Have Been A Victim of Internet Fraud:

The report should be filed in the jurisdiction where the money was received (the suspect’s location). You will need to know dates, addresses, and amounts involved. They will give you a case number at the time you file the report.
If the Suspect resides in Minneapolis, or the money or product was sent here, file a police report for theft-by-swindle (THFTSW) or credit card fraud (CCATM). Call Mpls 311 or go to your respective precinct to make your report (reports may not be made by phone to your precinct). If you are unsure which precinct you are in, you may enter your address and look it up here: Police Precinct Finder. Persons calling from within Minneapolis may call 311. Persons calling from outside the city may call 612-673-3000. 311 Customer Service Agents are available Monday through Friday from 7:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m.
If the Suspect resides in Minneapolis, or the money or product was sent here, put together copies of any paperwork you may have relating to the transactions, i.e., copies of correspondence, the initial listing, etc. This should include a copy of your account statement showing that the money was paid out, especially of the check/money order issued/cashed for payment. We will need copies of both sides. Recover the original from the bank or money order company if you can.
If the Suspect resides in Minneapolis, or the money or product was sent here, mail copies of any documentation, along with a detailed written summary by you of the sequence of events and reference the case number on this correspondence. Send to Minneapolis Police Dept, Forgery Fraud Unit, 350 S. 5th St., Room 108, Minneapolis, MN 55415.
If you sent payment by mail, you should contact the US Postal Inspector's Office in your area and file a complaint for mail fraud.
If your transaction was being conducted with a business rather than an individual, you should also notify your Minnesota Attorney General's Office and file a consumer fraud complaint.
You should also file a complaint with the FBI/NW3C through their Internet Crime Complaint Center (ICCC) on their website
If you are aware of other victims, pass this information on to them and encourage them to file reports as well.
There are some limitations of local law enforcement prosecution of Internet fraud of which you should be aware.

Due to the volume of cases handled by most local prosecutors offices, many of them are reluctant to prosecute cases where either the victim or suspect resides, or part of the transaction occurred in another jurisdiction.
Many incomplete business transactions are determined by prosecutors to fall into the realm of civil tort (non-performance on a contract) rather than criminal fraud.
In many cases, the suspect may be operating out of a mail-drop or using an assumed name. No one ever meets face-to-face, so proving identity can be an issue.
According to our last information on e-commerce, up to 20% of all Internet transactions on any given day are fraudulent on either the buyer's or seller's end. It is a "buyer beware" environment. When trading with someone unknown to you (either a business or an individual), it is often safer to deal through a third party broker that can complete the transaction fairly.
An investigation will usually be initiated if we get multiple reports on the same individual and losses can be aggregated to at least $4,000.

Additional resources on internet fraud:

Minneapolis Police Department: Beware When Purchasing Over the Internet

If your Social Security Card was Lost or Stolen:
Report the loss or theft to the Minneapolis Police Department. Call Mpls 311 and make a report or go to your respective precinct to make your report (reports may not be made by phone to your precinct). If you are unsure which precinct you are in, you may enter your address and look it up here: Police Precinct Finder. Persons calling from within Minneapolis may call 311. Persons calling from outside the city may call 612-673-3000. 311 Customer Service Agents are available Monday through Friday from 7:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m.

Then call the Social Security Administration Fraud Hotline to notify them of the loss and get information on how to get a duplicate card. Also, notify the credit reporting bureaus listed above. Request a copy of a credit report a month or two after the theft to make sure no fraudulent accounts are being opened.

S.S.A. Fraud Hotline , 1 - 800 - 269 – 0271 http://www.ssa.gov/oig/hotline/index.htm#ssben

 

^thanks for the info man.

I've already spoken with the company lawyer at my dads office, and he said to just give him a call back to get the ball rolling if need be.

I'm just waiting until tuesday to see what happens.