So I ordered a new axleback...

...and I got the cat-back instead :laugh: Basically, I ordered the Maddad dual-tip Whisper 2.5 inch axleback and what I received was the Whisper dual-tip 3 inch catback. I'm not complaining since I basically got the catback for free (I was only charged the price of the axleback), but would you report it back to the seller or no? I ordered it from Daddy's Sport Compact Performance and Rich was a cool guy to talk to over the phone. I'm honestly just thinking about keeping it till they say something...

 

I bet even if you tell Rich, he'll let you keep it anyway. He's a nice guy.

I want to see/hear it when it's on the car!

 

ITS CALLED INTEGRITY

 

And Karma's a beotc*

 

ummmm what?

 

so you are telling me as someone who shipped parts etc, that if you packaged something wrong, you wouldn't want someone to at least call you or contact you about it... hell if the seller tells him to keep it cause of their mistake then he has a clear conscience and his integrity/character is strong..

sorry but this is what is wrong with this country/culture... no-one teaches character and integrity to the youth anymore and then wonder why we have threads like taras's all the time...

actually it's kinda like that sale thread you had when you thought someone had turned around and made profit on your work and you threw up the huffy and closed your thread to everyone else... you questioned the "integrity' of the person who agree to your thread rules about not turning around to make money off you... but you got all upset... fair enough it worked itself out.. but why would that be any different...


further explanation un case you really really dont know what integrity is...

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In discussions on behavior and morality, one view of the property of integrity sees it as the virtue of basing actions on an internally-consistent framework of principles. This scenario may emphasize depth of principles and adherence of each level to the next.[citation needed] One can describe a person as having integrity to the extent that everything that that person does derives from the same core set of values. While those values may change, their consistency with each other and with the person's actions determine the person's degree of integrity.
Other views summarize integrity as personal honesty.
Other approaches emphasize the "wholeness" or "intactness" of a moral stance/attitude (harking back wittingly or unwittingly to the etymological parallels of the word in the Latin intactus, meaning "untouched"); relevant views of wholeness may also emphasize commitment, authenticity or esteem.
The concept of integrity links directly to that of responsibility insofar as people design their actions (based on principles) with a specific outcome in mind.[citation needed] When such an action fails to achieve the desired effect, this may indicate the need for a change of principles (rather than a variation in methodology). People achieve accountability[citation needed] when they can identify a faulty principle and change it to produce a more useful action.[clarify]
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[edit] Evaluating/measuring integrity

Popular discussions of integrity often see the concept as an all-or-nothing affair: one describes an approved person as "having integrity" (as an absolute), but condemns an enemy or a collective enemy organization as "completely lacking in integrity".
English-speakers may measure integrity in non-enumerated units called "scraps", speaking of preserving one's "last scraps of integrity". One deduces that integrity in such situations can appear brittle or fragile — and apt to tarnish or decay.


Main Entry:in·teg·ri·ty Pronunciation: \in-?te-gr?-t?\ Function:noun Etymology:Middle English integrite, from Middle French & Latin; Middle French integrité, from Latin integritat-, integritas, from integr-, integer entireDate:14th century 1 : firm adherence to a code of especially moral or artistic values : incorruptibility 2 : an unimpaired condition : soundness 3 : the quality or state of being complete or undivided : completeness synonyms see honesty

 

Do what Mahatma would do. Be the change.

 

If you like it keep it. Don't ask, don't tell.

 

Well, to clear it up, I called Rich and left a message as well as e-mailed. My morals got the best of me.

As you can tell, I did have problems thinking about keeping it without mentioning anything, but temptations are temptations. Anyhoo, we'll see what he says.

 

I think he was making a joke cause it was large font and bold...either way I think you should at least let them know....its the nice thing to do.

 

I hear ya... I would have had the same dilemna going in my head... but in the end if everyone would have a conscience or question situations the world would be a far better place...

they may have made a mistake (that's their fault) but what happens is eventually their prices go up etc etc....

 

I ordered an Invidia bell mouth downpipe and received a divorced Invidia downpipe, I couldn't have been happier!

I also wanna hear the exhaust I may want that instead of my SPT.

 

a few months ago I ordered a kartboy shift knob and forgot I didn't have $$ in my paypal account. I forgot about it for a week and a shift knob showed up on my door step free of charge, I emailed tom at kartboy and paypal'ed him the $40 even though I didn't have to. What goes around comes around, these guys are trying to run a business and they deserve being compensated for their hard work. Imagine if you worked your ass off at work and got paid half because of an honest mistake, not cool.

 

I'll trade you for a 3->2.5" Maddad MP + STi axleback and case of Nat'y Light.

You have the set up I envy.

 

I wouldnt have said anything. But I am a jerk.

 

TSTRBOY2004, please understand exactly what you are talking about before going off the deep end with your rants. If you do go off the deep end, please understand what you are talking about, and please for the love of all that you find holy, DO NOT CITE WIKIPEDIA!

The actual definition of integrity, when regarding action or conduct would be something like a steadfast adherence to a strict moral code. It does not mean honesty, even your wikicite states,

"In discussions on behavior and morality, one view of the property of integrity sees it as the virtue of basing actions on an internally-consistent framework of principles. This scenario may emphasize depth of principles and adherence of each level to the next.[citation needed] One can describe a person as having integrity to the extent that everything that that person does derives from the same core set of values. While those values may change, their consistency with each other and with the person's actions determine the person's degree of integrity."

When others, such as yourself, may believe it means being an honest person, many others may not. Because of your personal moral code, while shared with many people, is not the code that everyone follows.

If you were a thief and a drug user and these actions are morally acceptable in your eyes, then there would be no remorse nor guilt for you to steal and use drugs. While these actions may be unacceptable to general society, you are staying true to your personal moral code, and therefor having integrity.

I never once said I didn't think he should have contacted the seller and informed them of the mistake. In fact, the first thing I would have done was contact the seller by phone to inform them of the mistake. There would never have been a post for opinions on a forum. No disrespect to the OP, but it's what I would do. Because my personal moral code dictates that action, and I adhere to my personal moral code.

When the issue with the brakes came up I acted in haste, which I admit. But at no time did I throw up a huffy nor did I ever get upset by the situation. I simply closed the thread as I stated I would. This adherence to the statements made prior to my actions shows that I stick to my word and do not give idle threat, again showing my integrity. I never once questioned the buyer's integrity. Because I understand what integrity means, who am I, not knowing the buyer personally, to question his adherence to his moral code.

The original poster did what I would have done in this situation, and contact the seller of the exhaust. I just reacted to your over the top, and utterly ignorant conclusion that the rest of the world would follow your morals.

 

hmmm I like Gas in my car.. where is your station again...

 

not once did I say he or the rest of the world should follow my morals.... but on the other hand if they did I am sure we would be a lot better off for it... :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: ( <--- extra smileys in case the sarcasm meter is broken)

and I was being a smart-arse when I called it a huffy.. I thought you were justified to close your thread because of what you had stated in regards to the rules of it...

so I guess if you feel that integrity and honesty dont go hand in hand then we should follow that line of thinking and just say F*^$ it to those who do!!!


ps.... sarcasm is not picked up well around here is it.... but to use your own words to present your own hypocracy .. utterly ignorant conclusions are!!! (more sarcasm... should I add some smileys) kinda like saying what is true for you is not true for me... so what is truth... hmmm so if I kill someone I am a murderer by your way of thinking... but in my own eyes I am just removing someone I dont care about and it wasnt murder... so what is the truth.. because you think it is murder it is.. or cause I dont think it is it isnt??? my point is to me integrity in this case is moral!! its doing what you would like to be done to you if you were in the other persons position, which I see we both agree that we would do... wasnt saying he had to or should!! it was ultimately his choice... and again I think we agree he made the right choice... but others probably wont...

and being that he asked an open question for peoples opinions I gave him mine... from MY point of view... you dont have to like it... I aint taras'ing it down your throat.... besides I never went to college thats why I foolishly used wikipedia or whatever it was..

ultimatle AGAIN.. I think the OP did the right thing.. he made the effort.. its in their hands now... heck they may not have ever realised, but I am sure next time he deals with them they will remember this as I am sure it RARELY happens...