Ok, I had a little time to kill before I fly out to Boston tomorrow so I figured I'd finish up the stage 1 tune I've been working on (and off, lol) for my car and then take a little trip out to DB Performance to put it on the sled for a few pulls. So here's what I did -- 3 pulls with my stage 1 tune and then flash back the stock map and take 2 more pulls. The final results aren't that impressive when you just simply look at the max numbers. HOWEVER.....when looking at the torque/hp overlays between the two there is a huge difference. So here's what I put down: wotvs stage 1 super awesome jdm euro tune 227 wtq 201 whp stock (boooo! ) 197 wtq 180 whp Now back to the part on the plots.... On average there is a difference of +30 to +40 gains in wheel torque from around 3k rpms out to 5k rpms. The nice little torque spike that Subaru puts into their tune is there for advertisement (and to make my max torque numbers not look as good. ). Overall there is a pretty large gap between stock and my map which puts a big grin on my face, hehehe. Regarding HP to the wheels, there's a +20 to +30 gain over the stock calibration pretty much from 3k rpm to redline. Overall both wtq and whp are significantly higher and that's what I'm happy about. yay. The other thing that is kind of wacky about the stock tune is the horrendous delay in switching over to open loop fueling. As a result, I was running at ~13.6:1 @ 4k rpms before it finally dropped down to ~10.2:1. Yikes! :eek3: Now lemme go and find a new battery for my camera so I can take some pics of my plots to post up.
hmm, thats really close to what i put down on LSE's dyno when I was stock, but I think I was at 172whp 207wtq. So more tq, less hp. yay. I am looking forward to seeing how my cobb stg2 is running.
lol....I just got back from finding a new battery for my camera. Give me a minute to put them on t3h interw3bz.
Comparing two different dyno's is a no no, you know this!! Nice numbers hall way of plasma's, when is the stage 2 tune coming??
Oh yeah, run #4 reads low because the IAM/DAM was at .5 halfway through the pull. That's why it reads lower than #5 when it was adding in all of the KC table.
And here's hp vs afr for both tunes. Note the insane lean condition of the stock curve caused by the OL/CL delay. eek!
The numbers are kind of decieving until you look at t3h pl0ts, y0! ....and stage two will probably come this spring after I take my actuarial exam.
Wow, you totally killed the stock tune! (As expected.) Maybe since you were a math major you can calculate the total area under all four curves and post the totals.
lol, that would be a pretty hard curve to estimate as a sine wave..... ....and an even worse integral to compute!
Maybe this is a noob question, but does the old tbe mate up with 06+s? Because I want to see those numbers.
lol! I guess that depends on how anal I am on the next tune. FYI, there are ~81 different and old revisions of the map before I finally went out and used this one to get my dyno pulls with. lol!
lmao! Yeah, lots of different things to try and SMALL CHANGES between each revision. Follow it up with testing and tons of datalogs. Like almost 30megs of logs, hehehe. That file I sent you a while back probably looks very different from my latest revision, Nate. lol.
lol, you sound anal like me and the convergence on my TV. I see a hair of red or blue and I'm in the menu trying to fix it and the fiance is bitch'n "wait for a commercial break!" I hate that. But when you know it can be better. It just isn'tright to leave it!
Heh, I bet you didn't get a CAD plotting on clear mylar of a calibration grid to fit to your screen and totally rebuild the convergence of your set in the service menu......like I did. lol. I'm insane. :laugh:
I could probably get 81 revisions... If I went to ND and did nothing but drive around for a week straight! :laugh:
Not sure on the '06 (not that it would matter) but mglez put down 211whp/217wtq and badbennyb put down 226whp/230wtq while stock @ DB.
Good numbers. What's the cost per hp ratio compared to an AP? :laugh: Ahh, if I only knew how to tune.
It depends on whether or not I'm testing that week -- if I'm testing, there's a lot of WOT driving, lol. Seriously though, it's about the same as stock. With some mixed hwy/city driving, I'll usually go around 300 miles before the light comes on.
Hahaha...LMAO!! 201.4hp on stock urything!? Nyyyyyce! So I was just lookin at the graphs, was the boost running at 12psi/stock and 14psi/walloftv's "t00nz0rz fr0m h3ll" map!?
Yeah, stock boost on the '06 is around 11.6 psi. My tune runs about 13.5 @ 3000 rpm. Once it gets nice out, I might attempt to catch up to WOTVS 81 revision record. FYI, these '06's have baaaallls, as you can see! EDIT: I get around 18/21 mpg, same as I got stock. Lower when I have to let my car warm up, though EDIT #2: I bet your map looks different, Tom. No more 7 min timing, yay!
I saw fuel economy improve at cruise when I went to Stage I. I can't really compare now, given that my driving habits are different now (city driving). Amazingly, I discovered the car gets 29 mpg at 65. (I was bored and in no hurry to get home.)
Yeah, I did that on a road trip to Montana this summer. I get about that (29) at 65...and around 23 at 90 mph. I still went 90.
:laugh: lol, no. Don't have access to CAD. I just throw in my Digital Video Essentials disc and go into the service menu every 6 months or so.
