Techy's engine pull progress thread

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  1. techy101
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    When I'm done with this engine pull and reseal I'm hoping/planning to put together a full How-To complete with all part numbers and lots of pictures for the SVX forums, so that's why some of these seem overly-detail oriented.

    But nevertheless here are some pictures from tonights extravaganza!

    Many Many thanks to Qstarin and 9blackmax6

    I'll keep adding as progress happens.


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    I wonder where my biggest oil leak could be coming from. It couldn't possibly be this
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    And finally, here's the cam sprocket that I broke trying to get it off:mad:

    There should be another lip on the side closest to the camera
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  2. piddster
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    Please set your hood on it's side. Any body man will tell you that.




    That cam gear looks awefuly familiar. Like, 2.2 familiar. I have several laying around...
     
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    I didn't know I was supposed to set on it's side. I will rectify that problem tomorrow.

    Also, if they turn out to be the same, how much would you want for a pass side one?
     
  4. Chux
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    it does look like a 2.2 cam gear. part of me would be very surprised if it were the same....but most of me wouldn't :biggrin:

    good work, and great pictures. I have a feeling the back of my ER27 looks like that :(
     
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    AFAIK, the 3.3 is kinda sorta like a 2.2 with 2 extra cylinders. So it wouldn't surprise me if they were the same.
     
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    It's all good. I didn't lnow for a long time either.



    I dunno, $10 seem fair?
     
  7. Snowbum
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    Those heads are different. They look dohc, but with one campulley. Is there a gear that drives the other cam?
     
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    Yes. I saw a picture of it on the SVX forum. The other cam is driven by an internal gear.
     
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    Ahhh ha! Thats a good way to add rotating mass.
     
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    Looks like fun, I have wanted a svx for a while.
     
  11. Chux
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    yea, but, as mentioned, they're DOHC with a gearset behind there. so I figured they'd be different. but subaru is subaru.......probably interchangeable :biggrin:
     
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    I scored at u pull today. All sorts of stuff, including my broken sprocket!

    Although it was a major mud pit
     
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    Some more pictures. I just finished cleaning up the super-mess we created when we were pulling the motor, and then all my tools that had been thrown into one bag for a trip to U Pull R Parts. It turns out that they got a 92 SVX in about a month ago, but it was almost complete. Probably because it's been so darn cold up here until today.

    It was a huge mud pit, and I ended up using the door cards as a step stool to stay above the 3" of water that was right in front of the car.

    Anyway, here are the pictures. First is a picture of my spoils :)

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    Here's what a bit of elbow grease and a lot of noxious chemicals can do
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    Engine mounted on the stand
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    And here are pictures of my old motor mounts. They were completely separated, and came off the car like this:
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  14. subytek
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    Are you replacing the headgaskets?
     
  15. techy101
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    I'm thinking so. Why?
     
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    I just think it would be a good idea while the engine is out. That is all.
     
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    That's looking like the plan. I'm fairly intimidated by it, but I'm sure I can pull it off.
     
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    Well, two steps forward, one step back.

    It seems that I broke my second thing. The mass of EGR stuff on the back of the EG33 was rusted to hell and I managed to not only shear of 4 frozen bolts, but also accidentally break a plastic thing that a hose fits over on one of the valves. So I'm working on a way to rectify this problem.

    I have a few hoses that will need replacing because they were totally trashed and got cut to remove.

    I managed to remove one of the heads tonight, and I think I did it without breaking anything more than the EGR stuff.

    I've got a few questions but will put them in a thread in the technical sub-forum where they belong.

    Anyway, here are the pictures from today.

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    Motor mount plate before cleaning
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    After cleaning!
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    Oh, and qstarin, there is till another head gasket to go
     
  20. Chux
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    FYI, you may know this already, but standard EJ-series motor mounts will bolt up just fine using just the 2 bolts on the block.


    Great pictures! I just love the cam gears. Kyle and Max and I were joking a few weeks ago about how cool it would be to have some straight-cut cam gears to put in an EG33, just for the crazy sound :laugh::laugh:
     
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    On this motor they apparently don't quite fit, but with very minimal modification standard wrx mounts work. I've got a set of Group-N mounts ready and waiting.




    Also, thanks everyone for the support, advice, and for putting up with my huge barrage of questions and pictures. I'm pretty much stumbling through this somewhat blind so it's very much appreciated.
     
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    You're missing the shot of the hidden monster turbo! LOL

    Great job guys, I want to hear this beast breath, once it's all back together!
     
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    Today was nothing too special.

    I slept in today and ran some errands. But I did get some work done. I figured I'd get to cleaning the garage out so I can find tools again ;) That took a couple of hours.

    Then on to the work
    First was cleaning out the throttle body. Made a pretty big difference.

    Second, it was on to pulling the other head.

    So yeah, here are some pictures.

    Throttle body prior to cleaning:
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    Now after cleaning
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    Here are some pictures of the exposed clinder on this side of the motor. It also looks pretty darn good
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    And the other motor mount before and after cleaning
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    Motor without heads (This is the short block correct?)

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    And the other head stuff
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  24. StatGSR
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    looking good!
     
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    Wowsers. Sweet.

    How tough was the TB to clean? It came out very well. What did you end up using for chemicals?

    That is the shortblock that's left sitting there, plus a few sensors and what-not, it looks like.
     
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    It was a bit of a fight, but not too terrible. I used TB cleaner, Seafoam and a nylon detailing brush. It took about 30 or 40 minutes. There are still a few spots, but it's good enough for me.
     
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    Wow.. Matt for someone who was sitting in my workshop talking about how you barely know how to change oil (I kid) you are certainly diving in the deep end.... kudos bro
     
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    Until 2006 I didn't have any clue how the hell to even change oil or change a tire.

    That's why I got this car. I wanted a way to learn :)
     
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    +10. Definitely some cool DIY attitude going on here.


    Nylon brush sounds very safe. I'll have to remember that.
     
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    I used nylon inside, but I used a steel and a brass brush on the outside.
     
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    Side question. What did you end up getting to bolt the engine to the stand? Cause those look like all new bolts. It seemed odd that the bolts would be quite a bit smaller in diameter than the holes on the stand that they go through. Are they in fact smaller?
     
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    I picked up 90mm Grade 8 bolts from Napa along with those washers. That way there was no worrying about anything.

    They are in fact much smaller than the holes in the stand.
     
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    Today was another slow day. Did some cleaning of the timing belt covers, got the damn cranks sprocket off, pulled the oil pump, did some cleaning, put it back on with a new o-ring and front main seal.

    Also did some grinding of one of the motor mounts.

    To get the crank sprocket off I had to tap the two holes in it and use a steering wheel puller. And after a lot of cleaning it went back on without any trouble whatsoever.

    Anyway, here are pictures:

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    Steering wheel puller on the crank sprocket
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    It was pretty rusty
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    More rust
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    After rust removal brigade
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    Crank Sprocket and the little key thing
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    Back together
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    Steering wheel puller - looks like it worked perfectly!

    Also, how bad does that timing belt cover actually look where the crank pulley was rubbing it? Going to be able to fix that now?
     
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    Here's what I was up to today.

    I think I finished up the motor mounts today. I spent most of the day cleaning up the block and heads though. My new head gaskets and other stuff are supposed to be coming in tomorrow (hopefully they'll actually come in on time).

    Here are today's pictures

    Finished motor mounts:
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    Here are some pictures of before and after cleaning of the heads and block.

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    After cleaning
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    What did you clean the block to oil pump surfaces with? I have to ask because fresh silicone will not bond to cured silicone, hence my reference to acetone in the other thread.
     
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    Again, carb cleaner. It was recommended to me by others.
     
  38. Chux
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    very interesting way to do the engine mounts. where did you hear about that? I know Huck just put WRX mounts, bracket and all, on the EG33 that went in the FrankenWedge. just uses 2 bolts on the block instead of 3.
     
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    This has been talked about on the SVX forums for a while. The mounts are almost correct, but they sit 1/4" too low. That's the reason for the washers. Others have had good luck with it, so hopefully I will too.
     
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    sweet. having not had any personal experience with it....I wasn't sure.


    you're making awesome progress. I need to go put some elbow grease into the EJ22 in my basement. I'd love to get it to shine like that :cool:
     
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    Here are a few more pics. I may be doing more tonight, not sure yet. But I figured I'd toss up a few teasers from todays work.


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    More stuff from tonights work

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    Valve cover gaskets
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    Seals installed
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    Valve cover on
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    Starting to look like an engine again. Just much cleaner
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    Oil pan removed, prior to cleaning mating surface
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    After cleaning
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    Nasty old seal on the oil pan
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  43. Chux
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    very nice! you did put a new water pump on there....didn't you? :)
     
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    it was replaced about 10k miles ago, so no I didn't
     
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    More work done today. Not as much as I'd hoped, a friend lost her job so I spent a while with her. Friends trump car.


    But I got the oil pan put back on, although I think I probably used too much RTV. Hopefully it won't be a problem.

    Also removed my bolt from the intake cam gear:rolleyes: from last night.

    Then it was just putting things back together. Slow going, but I'm making progress. For anyone else doing this, label the hoses. There were a few that I labeled, but most I figured would make sense because of location. Not so much. It's making things take a lot longer.

    I couldn't find a plug for the EGR hole in the exhaust manifold, so I finally just cut the pipe and had someone weld it shut.

    Oh, and I installed the locking pin in the front passenger half shaft @ the diff. I have had some suspension noise ever since I got the car, and when we got it apart I noticed that that locking pin has been missing since I bought the car:eek: So not cool. It was a pain to get in, but hopefully it'll make things better.

    Finally, tomorrow my ebay timing belt kit will be here.


    Here are today's pictures:

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    My solution for the EGR line on the intake manifold side
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    I used high temp silicone to re-attach the little brackets that hold the coil pack wires on.
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    Starting to come together
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    My welded and re-installed EGR thing
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    And finally my new locking pin
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