Im thinking to install 10000K blue HIDs on my wrx and 3000K HIDs for my fog lights, does anyone know ayone what bulb sizes i would need? has anyone here done this? any feedback? Ideas? If you have seen people here do this please let me know, this is the last bit of my process before i post new pictures of my car... thank you
I think headligh lows are H3, fogs idk, high beams H1? I should know this since I just bought bulbs last night but I don't know for sure
10000k are bound to get you in trouble with the cops...at least down here. I know a handful of people that have gotten tickets for their lights being "Too blue". Also, FWIW...HID's and bugeye headlights don't mix.
The idea is that without projector headlights you blind everyone else driving. Bugeye projector headlights would fix this issue. reflector headlights and HIDs don't mix well
aww that makes sense. i guess im one of those dicks . but i do plan on getting the projectors at some point.
Yeah I was looking at the picture and couldn't tell. I agree, they don't look stock.... but it is hard to tell.
1) You didn't specify what kind of vehicle these are going into, but based on your avatar we'll assume a bugeye with standard headlights. Your bulb is a 9007 for the headlight and H3 for the fogs. 2) 10000K headlights would be practically useless to you for actual lighting and look ridiculous. Higher color temps on the bulb does not equal higher lumen output. 3) HID bulbs in bugeye reflector headlights are absolutely terrible. The scatter they produce is very blinding to other traffic and aside from the fact that it makes you kind of a dick, it will also attract attention from the authorities. If you want to do HID's, you should get projector headlights at the minimum, if not retrofit some HID-specific hardware into the lighting housings. Your headlights are not bling, they are safety equipment and should be respected as such. No, bugeye reflectors and HID bulbs do not mix. This is not a matter of opinion, it is a proven and verifiable fact. HID bulbs do not work in bugeye reflectors. As I stated above, your headlights are not vagazzle on your car. Here's a pretty good resource on NASIOC about these systems, some of the information is specific to Subaru models: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=664361 If you're looking to retrofit HID optics into your stock headlights, this is a good kit I've personally worked with that looks and functions great in bugeye lights: http://www.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?products_id=237
thank you guys, a lot of good info here, My headlights are stock, i like the 10000k HID's I saw a picture somewhere and i am trying to get it, cant find it now. But it looks great, I know someone with a SRT4 that has 10000k and they shape of the headlights are similar so I think it would look great, he has never gotten a ticket, doesnt mean i wont, "i get that".
No, 10000K does not "look great". It looks like ricer trash and just makes it easier to spot the people with no taste. The color will likely wear off on you (as I've heard from people that got 8000K) and eventually you'll have dim headlights that look awful. If you get anything, get 6000K (not that I'm endorsing putting HID bulbs into the stock headlights). It will still have the blue color it seems you're looking for, but won't be so god-awful that you won't be able see where you're going.
Come on now guys, No insults here, NO one here is driving a civic, Alltough i do have a 2011 civic hybrid as well, my 02 WRX is My daily driver. Im sure something you have in you car willl look stupid to me but you dont see me talking about it.
Irregardless of who is talking about who, 10k bulbs in your reflective housing is just plain stupid. You will barely have any usable light. Getting in an accident or a few tickets probably isn't worth it to look "cool". As stated about, get 6k for the blue look. I would highly recommend a retro-fit or at least projectors.
Yes, but there's a difference here. Our definition of "stupid" entails something which is actually a hazard to both you and the other people on the road, not some minor aesthetic difference in taste. 10k bulbs are for ricer trash who are too dumb to realize that it's actually not a brighter light, and think that just because they thought they saw it on some higher end car (which they didn't, any decent HID kit is around 4300k) and want to think that they're one step closer to turning their ****box into a supercar. Have you actually driven a car with 6k, 8k or 10k HIDs? You'd be better off shining a flashlight out the window the higher up the scale you get. If you want to pay money to downgrade your lighting because it looks "cool" that's on you. Just don't be surprised when we don't consider that to be the smartest thing we've ever seen.
I agree, after hearing all the possitive comments and imput i have highly change my mind to 6000K, I did do research and the 10K i gues wouldnt be a good idea. thank you all for your imput.
Well nowhere in here did i say i tought i looks "cool", after the money i have spent on upgrades on my wrx Rice is notthing close to me, but i did think they looked great, i do know someone who has 10000K and i thought visibility was ok, but I have decided to go a different route thanks to all of your guys input, But i also think a car you work on represents your taste and what you really like, so everyone should always be respectfull of that NOT SAYING YOU WERENT, i do appreciate your feedback and honesty, but some ppl aboove is who i mean.
Hmmmm no i actually bought the right car, the one i wanted. 2002 WRX. I did however own 5 civics and 3 integras tho, and they werent slow..
I had 10ks in my headlights just to piss people off haha but they suck for highways, go with 6ks if you're looking for maximum visibility but if you like the blue tint but still want functionality go with 8ks. Oh and 100% do 3ks in the fogs or they do make standard halogen 3k look a likes that are just plug and play but look just as good. Here's a pic of my piss people off set up haha
i have 10,000k in my stock headlight housings and 3,000k in my fog lights on my 03 wrx. ive never been bothered by any cops about them and they really are not that blinding to other drivers in my opinion... ide recommend the set up looks better then stock and you can see better as well.
Piss people off meaning have them call me a ricer, but i'm confident in my car enough to where I don't really care and find it funny. As for unsafe, explain. They are not blinding at all with the JDM housings, I NEVER get flashed for brights or anything and i've driven my many police officers and talked to them (I'm studying criminal justice in college and they are my professors) and they said nothing was illegal about them. So yeah if anyone wants to change colors of their headlights without doing anything illegal or unsafe who cares?
OR you can do it the right way like I did and do a projector retrofit in addition to HIDs. This will involve opening your headlights. The light is far superior to using just a drop in. As im sure has already been mentioned, the higher you go above 5k the less visible light there is so even though it looks bright, it isnt. HID retrofits are pricey but worth it. But whatever you choose, post pics.
get projectors first then get bi-xenon for your high and low beams. I would recommend xenonsupply.com. get the whole package i mean DRL cap and relay harness. your bulbs will flicker like a sob during the day and eventually burn out a ballast if you don't. might be able to get away with it if you disable the DRLs but thats your call.
This. It's not just about color temperature. The stock reflector is not designed for an HID sized bulb, so light scatter is a serious problem. This is a significant contributing factor to being an asshole and blinding other drivers.
DRL mod..... Drive with low beams on. 09+ cars the DRL are the high beams at 50% power. Not sure about other years.
02 on stock bulbs with DRL its the bulb low beam. I've run silver stars sine I owned the car. I disabled DRL in it after a year because in that year I went through 6 sets of silverstars. The DRL burned them up quick
Sometimes, and only if I like you. The speed of a fwd econobox isn't at question here. My daily (summer) driver is stock, and not a Subaru, so anything you "think is stupid" would be the company who designed it's fault. Welcome to Mnsubaru, grow thicker skin, we have a very low tolerance for idiocy here.
look it should be easy, since you have made this far, believe me if you think your comment bothered me, Im sorry, it didnt, But so sad you cant afford a Subaru for summer and one for winter, maybe you should spend more time working hard... Heyyyyyy its just a joke, come on buddy...
Oh!, you know someone tried to explained to me how to disable them but i didt quiet get it, how did you it? thanks
I have a Mercedes and two motorcycles for summer, I have TWO Subarus for winter. Try again on the "cant afford" chochie
No, stop giving people bad advice. HID drop-in setups are completely a bad idea in 02 reflector headlights. You too, stop giving bad advice. I can assure you that 10000K bulbs do not help you see better. It's an optical illusion, your vision is impaired, not improved. Additionally, it does not look better. Let's break this next one down into the seperate points: Yes, they are unsafe. Just because people do not flash you doesn't mean you aren't blinding them with scatter and a ridiculous light pattern. Below you will find a link that explains everything you should know and includes pretty pictures: http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html You need to find a new school. Here's a couple of statutes that officers like to cite when writing citations on HID offenders: 169.60(b) - none of the high-intensity portion of the beam shall be directed to strike the eyes of an approaching driver. 169.61(b) - When the driver of a vehicle approaches a vehicle within 1,000 feet, such driver shall use a distribution of light, or composite beam, so aimed that the glaring rays are not projected into the eyes of the oncoming driver. 169.65 SPECIFICATIONS FOR LIGHTING AND OTHER DEVICES. -or use upon any such vehicle, any headlamp, auxiliary driving lamp, rear lamp, signal lamp, spot lamp, clearance lamp, marker lamp or reflector, or parts of any of the foregoing, unless of a type which has been submitted to and approved by the commissioner of public safety. These are also the reason your HID kit said "Off-road use only" on the box. And for one last example, I've highlighted the blinding scatter that shows up just in your picture in the attachment below. Now, I'm not doing this to be mean or to haze the newbies. You're uninitiated, that's part of being new. I was there, too. However, you can't keep spreading around bad information to other people on the boards for (what should be) obvious reasons. Doing what you're doing is both illegal and unsafe to a point, spreading misinformation that it isn't is not OK. If you're going to do something that's a pain to other people, just admit it and stay humble. Don't try to convince others and yourself that "it's not that bad". Not sure if cocky newbie... Or just read up on board's inside jokes...
