APS? SPERCO? PERRIN? and why would theirs be the best? Ohhh, and if I went for a high end TMIC, do you think I could run a 20g on it?:roll:
SORRY, I know the question sounds NOOBish, but.... I'd like to hear peoples opinions on high end TMICs. So please let me know....
In my opinion, it doesn't matter that much. You have bar & plate and tube & fin. Both consist of pieces of aluminum that are brazed together. $600 or more for a top mount is nuts.
dont some flow better than the other? I heard cheaper ebay once dont flow as good as authentic brand name once.
like piddster said, they are all pretty much the same aside from size. its asking what kind asprin cure bad headache.....
well, the spearco, the ebay TMIC flow realy well, but, the don't shed much heat, where as the high fin dencity top shelf name TMIC arn't as free flowing, but they disperce heat. I want a tmic that gets rid of heat, but flows well and I was just woundering if any one here has had first hand experiance with this descision. I bought a APS TMIC for my 20g, got it for a steal... but, I want to make sure that I may work for such a large turbo. where does APS stand in these rankings?
^very low. Sell your aps... to me. I don't have much to add to what's been posted already, except that surface area is another point of concern in terms of finding a splitter/bellows that will actually seal properly and let you utilize the ginormous size of some of these intercoolers. other than that, weight/materials like you mentioned will determine how long it takes them to get heat soaked, and in turn how long it will take to shed that heat off. To answer the question in yr OP, 20g+tmic is a fairly common setup. Def wouldnt hurt to coat/wrap/spray the uppipe, hot side, and possibly the exhaust manifold and heat shield also.
Josh was running a 20g with a top mount not sure which one though. He made mad torque but lost a little power up high. I'm running a 20g with a Perrin FMIC and I love it. I don't have the torque Josh had but I made more top end power. Disco is running a 35r with the Spearco tmic and his car is pretty awesome so I'm sure you will be just fine with a top mount.
REASSURENCE.... ahhhhh, feels so good.:biggrin: ok, will my stock 06 wrx cat back suport 400 chp? or say 320-340 whp? I've already got an Agency power Down Pipe, is a cat back going to make a huge differance? Is it just a sonic preference? Or should I realy get an N1 fart can?:roll:
let's think of where you'll spend most of your driving time. personally i stuck with a tmic cause I wanted mad spool for the everyday traffic. if I was just tracking/racing the car i probably would've gone for a fmic to get the top end power. someone summed it up before. bar-plate design for the IC and wrap everything you can to keep the engine bay heat to a minimum.
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Short answer, no. Long answer, not really. When you get up to that kind of flow, it could hold you back as much as 50hp. You need to think of it in terms of a system. So you have a downpipe, cool. But that exhaust still has to get out of the system, so why choke it off at the axel back.
The stock catback will be a major restriction. Hell, it even is on a stage 2 setup. Just shell out some cash for a catback. If you prefer quiet, my Maddad Whisper is pretty stealthy.
solid setup. I'll even have said midpipe for sale very soon. not for you it wasn't! MadDad has the straight through design and iirc the stromung and prodrive are baffled.
I've got the Maddad catted DP with 3"->2.5" MP. Waiting on his Whisper Twin-Tip to replace my stock WRX axleback. Stromung private label Mfrs the Maddad gear to Rich's specs. Prodrive is nice but it is even more than the Maddad axlebacks. To the OP, it is really hard to go wrong with APS stuff. They've been around as long if not longer than the others and their quality is amazing. If you ever need to sell it APS parts sell lightning fast (for good reason). If I was going beyond the STi TMIC for my 07 wagon w/ VF39 I'd get a used APS TMIC. APS tech support has always been responsive to me. Ping them to see which turb0z they feel the TMIC can support. Torque and stealth FTW on a daily driver. Track car - YMMV.
Well, you probably want at least some form of bastardized DP so that you don't start the dash on fire.
Actually, the Prodrive axleback is cheaper then the Maddad one. Very much so if you can find a used one, of which there are quite a few, as its a popular setup. Yeah, mine was a good deal.
ive had the stocker, a turboxs, a perrin and the spearco. spearco is the bomb.... imo a must have for large turbo setups.
Well, with a good airflow, a tmic will run just as cool as a fmic (internal air temps, not the worthless surface temps). The biggest thing you will notice is the you will have a little more power down low since there is less area to pressurize and you *might* loose a little up top. Good dyno numbers with a tmic are going to be hard to get since you never really have good air flow and you get some more heat soak. A good tmic will slow down heat soak since it take so much longer for the radiant heat to soak into the metal. bar and plave VS tube and fin is totally up to the end user. I have run both and have the same temps on each one. The only thing that really effects the air temps is the hood to IC bellows seal will cool the IC down faster, but that is about it. A 20g on a spearco or older TXS tmic will work out just fine. Russ
I appriciate all your input, I like the maddad twin tip, and it has a great tone, I think the APS will work great! I'm going to be doing my install party in May, I'm thinking I'll be doing..... DP UP cat Back Turbo Inlet Stock Mount Turbo Injectors FP TMIC ..... maybe tgv deletes and hondata type intake gaskets I don't know, if I want to do this.... .....maybe equal length header.... (I would miss my boxer rubbles)
$10.00 says my wife gets pregnant and I have to sell most of this ****!!! YOU ALL OWE ME TEN BUCKS!!!!!
