lot of people on here running Td06 20gs. althogh it does seem tha many are chaing up for the 35r. so beat the rush and go dual 40r.
my goals for my WRX is mainly power... i mean i want it to be stable to but i dnt want to go head over heels for power though, like i dont want to have a super fast car but fast enough you get what im trying to say...but yea i have heard of the 35r and 40r but dont you have to buy other stuff with like new intercooler ect...so what i really looking for is bolt on.
do the vf34, 18g, or 20g..... all you will need is a new TMIC, injectors, fuel pump, obviously exhaust and a tune-lots of power, relativly cheap.
NO, let me be more specific. What do you intend to do with your car. What is the desired purpose of your car. What do you want your power to do for you. I'm sure we could make a 2.0L car make 500 whp, but you'd only have a 1000rpms of usable powerband. What do you intend to do with the car...that determines the type of power band the car should have....which gives you a starting point.
^ exactly, do you want to autox it? track it? DD it? do you want more power lower int eh power bad, or lots of top end? how do you want it to act?
I'd say for a cheap upgrade that is a bolt-on...any VF series, again as mentioned new Injectors, Pump, TBE, ECU-Flash and your set...for now!?! Your should be around $2k Stock WRX: 168-170whp VF/supporting Upgrade: 240-280+whp (depending on Dyno) You should easily see an increase of 80-100whp with that upgrade (safe).
NO NO NO, Don't pick a turbo, pick a purpose. Everyone will tell you what turbo they like, but you need to figure out what YOU want to do with your car.
x eleventy. And just quoting hp numbers is also stupid without providing some sort of graph. It's also a pain when the majority of hp numbers are also based on race gas.
all depends on the tune. if you get a awesome tune for the 20g on a 2.0 it will work fine. if the tune isnt up to par, it wont be near as much fun. for cheap(er) in the 300hp range look at the VF22 / VF23. should be good for about 280-290whp. this was the same turbo used on the 22B. this should be able to be used with the stock IC and stuff for maximum boltage onage.
I am in the same boat. I think the best turbo, from reading online, is the 16G. It is a bolt on, great spool, more potential power than the vf34, modifiable in the future, inexpensive, what more could you want. I always thought the 18G and 20G were too laggy for the 2.0. I heard they were spot on for the newer 2.5 engines.
dipps got a brand new 20g for sale or im selling dipps turbo for him. http://www.mnsubaru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13728 buy it! you will love it!
Like readymix said, what are you going to do with your car. Ignore all other input till you determin what you want to do with your car. I can quote about 20 different pieces of bad information in this thread. if you want, I will quote them later. A 18g will get you full spool around 3500-4000 depending on tune. 20g will be past that (4000+). there is a HUGE difference between the vf22 and the vf23. HUGE. you need to tell us what your plans are for your car and what you want to do with it. If you can't get us that info, you will never have a good FUN car. Russ Russ
Just go with the 20g right now and you only need a few minor upgrades, tune and you will make good power. In fact i will sell you my brand new slowboy TD06H 20g for 1,200$ never used with lines and you won't have to wait 4 months to get one like me.
I'm sticking to my original statement about finding your purpose for the car before modding. And I agree with Russ, there is alot of misinformation being spewed in here.
That's the case with most technical threads here. Thank you Nasioc for the garbage that gets put into everyone's heads!
alright well what i realy want out of my car is 270-300 hp im more of a street racer, not really into autox its cool but its just not my thing at the moment. im a drag racer. but thank on all the info about what i should do. solomon
I would listen to WRX1 (Russ). I do not know Readymix very well, yet, but he is right on also. I listened to WRX1, bikerboy, and LegacyPGT and they have been right with every move I made with my car. My car is different than yours but they still knows their stuff. There are only a few other people I would trust on this board so far. That is because I do not know everyone yet. I talked with some people and the more I talked to them I could see who knew what they were talking about and what information made sense. I am sure there are a lot of good people in the club but I know that these guys know what they are talking about. IMO you should get to know them before deciding who you are going to trust and what mods you are going to make.... but thats just me. Your car, you wallet.
my plans for my car are as follow...new strut and springs to lower the car, new breaks, BOV, new turbo when i get more cash, and bigger injectors.
so whats a good injector and pump to look for?? if i ever do get a turbo what are things i HAVE to get??
Walbro 255LPH fuel pump is the norm. Injectors will be decided by what turbo you intend to run and the horsepower goals associated with your final goal for the car.
And 270 whp on a street driven car can be achieved with a Super16G or a VF22. You will want a larger top mount intercooler. Probably some modded injectors...somewhere around 600cc. The Walbro fuel pump will suit your needs just fine. You will also probably need some sort of intake, a shortram would probably be fine. You'll also need to keep in mind that you'll need engine management before any of those mods...and you'll need to have somebody tune your car for all of this.
What kinda of lag do you want?? With my 18g I am right around 3500 and that is with a auto tranny and a stall. In a manual car it will be a bit more. Some of the lag can get tuned out, but when you throw a gt35r and a 2.0l, you will have lag. No tuning will get rid of it. If you wanted a good quick car, I would go with a large 16g varient (evo3, superG). I would guess a 20g will spool up around 4200-4400. So that means you will wait till 4000+ rpm before you see full boost (20psi). On my 18g I am running 630cc injectors and my idc's are right around 90% at 21psi. That will give ya a little more info. I would guess in a 5 speed car I should be around 300whp (260 in the auto). But at that point in time, you will also have to worry a bit about the tranny (exspecially if you are drag racing). Russ
if you want that week kind of power than i can get you a used vf22 with a ewg uppipe for $700. all you would need to get then is a wast gate and supporting mods.
Wow, you're an idiot. I hope you are just f-ing around. 300whp will be at the near limits of n00b driver's transmission strength. And you are trying to get him to go bigger. I think the best thing for our new friend is to get something that give decent gains and good midrange to top end, while not sacrificing drivability. I gotta say, I'm not too fond of giving inexperienced drivers the keys to cars with tons of horsepower and cutting them loose. Quit shooting from the hip.
it was a joke ! holy cow! sorry for cuting jokes in this oh so serious thread. back to making a drag car but not too fast car. ...... hear is my real in put with out having fun. 1 get a cobb ap and exhoust. 2 you can go on other threads like nasioc in the forsale section and and find a package deal with a vf34, sti pinks, and a fule pump. i would also do a up pipe and down pipe with this package. then get a tune. lern on this set up of how to drive and what else you want out of the car. that setup is a realy basic in the middle of what all is out there. it will get you around 260whp.
teh mix, and russ definately know whats up in the turbo world. i will admit that you probably should not listen to anything i say reagrding turbos becuase i am very new to them (coming from NA background). slightly OT: but whats so different between the VF22/VF23? from what i have read they are pretty similar. the VF22 is the largest in the VF line, followed by the VF23. The first run of 22Bs came with VF22s and were around 280-300 PS, while the later ones (post #200) were done with VF23s and suposedly made more power 300-320PS. again i have no visual evidence of this. i am also aware that the 22Bs were hand made and hand tuned. so each had a slightly different map, so each car had differnt HP/TQ numbers.
The problem, Matt, lies in the fact that you can't make a coherent thought on the internet because your spelling and grammar is atrocious. And as such, newbies like solomon might not know when you are serious, or goofing off. If you read his posts, he is completely in the dark about turbos, tuning, fueling and basic mod path planning. So when you jump in the thread and start peddling 20G's and 35Rs, he is going to take that to heart...because he doesn't know who or what to believe. So please, stop with the bull****, and try helping out in threads like this.
