http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trkparms=tab%3DWatching&viewitem=&item=130156278715&_trksid=p3907.m32#ebayphotohosting I just won these and hope to get them installed next weekend. Thanks for the recent install write up Justin. Any other tips to dropping these puppies in? You know, the sort of thing that you kick yourself for not noticing the first time you do a new install, then half to start over...
Nothing really special about installation. Supposedly there's a 12pt socket that will grab the adjuster on the bottom just right, but I've never found it. i love how the guy in the auction gets all excited about the fact JIC can rebuild them... apparently he hasn't asked how much it costs to do so... $200 per coil over, Extra $100 per if you want custom valving. oh, and by the way, hope you don't enjoy comfort.... these will ride rough. set them to full soft before you install, because they are less than easy to adjust.
Absolutely. You should do an alignment after any suspension work involving the struts. those camber caster plates will make any alginment guy hate you. they are far from easy to adjust. set the camber bolts on the front struts to max when installing. that way, your alignment guy won't have to touch them. for best feel and turn in, have your alignment guy get as much caster out of them as possible, as long as both sides can match. alot of alignment places won't touch those camber plates. talk to either jeff the alginment guy or nathan if he is up for some punishment.
Honestly, i would suggest not installing them if your going to drive the car in the winter. they will make the car VERY twitchy, and you will noticeably shorten the life of the strut. these aren't style coil overs built for aesthetics or lowering, their a full race unit, meant to go really really fast.
shane, i had a question too for you, should you really have to get re-alligned? mine seemed to have changed angles since i had them checked
You mean the angle has changed since you've had the alignment checked? if you failed to torque the camber bolt to spec, it could easily (and has been known to) slip.
thats what i figured, the camber on the drivers side has pitched out it seems, time to get back in there and have it re-checked i guess
shane..would jeff the alignment guy be the guy to go to to get my project car setup up? i need camber, caster, and toe all set up. i really need to drive to an alignment place after i get the car running.
Yes- Jeff is the man for performance alignments. [email protected] 1009-C West 80th. Street, Bloomington mn. Regular hours: 10-4 Mon.-Sat. Other times available by appointment. 952-888-0800 Let him know what you want and he will get it there. He also does corner weighting.
Well damn it, this is my only car. But seriously, I appreciate the advice. I think I'll go ahead and install them and see how they feel. I think I got a great price for them, $620 shipped. So if they don't work out, I should be able to get my cash back. Anybody want to get on the waiting list?
Apexi N1 Pro Expert V's with stiffer Swift Racing springs... same deal basically, full pillows, fully adjustable fronts and everything, rears dont have the plate adjustments tho
Please don't install these right before winter. You might be really curious to see how they perform now but you will need to removed them in about a month, month or two as these will kill you and wreck your car if you attempt to drive over snow on them not a winter suspension. not even close. you seriously should not run these in the wintertime.
Okay guys, I'll keep them off for the winter. I guess I'll have to sell them unless I want to go switching back and forth every year.
Yes, you need an alignment everytime you switch, but if you want to run a race-coilover on your car in MN you can either leave them on and not drive your car for 6 months, or pay to have an alignment done everytime you swap. The third option is to drive the coilovers during the winter but that will most likely lead to two things: 1. Premature wear and rebuilding of coilovers (at $200/corner that's a reason to spend the money to do the alignment) 2. A quick trip into a median/curb (best case) or other driver during inclement weather. I can attest personally to the inability of a very stiff suspension (DMS 40's in my case) to handle even a little bit of snow and ice effectively. I believe the adage is "pay to play". Do any of the shops (Firestone?) have lifetime alignments? I know in Colorado I could get the $100 lifetime alignment and go in as many times as I wanted to get the alignment re-rigged. Sure, the management could impose a 'factory spec, only' clause, but I had a lot of luck getting to know the tech up front and getting him to tweak the specs to my liking.
me neither, guess i just purchased these w/o doing any real research. i figured it was a good price and could sell them either way. my car is currently 99% street, so i don't think the jics are for me. as soon as get them, expect a FS thread. thanks for helping me make the right decision mnsubaru, you save the day again.
a few shops offer lifetime alignment deals, but they usually won't touch a custom suspension with a 10ft pole, and they sure as hell won't take custom specs.... not to mention when you come in every week requesting changes.. now, this is of course if you were to just roll in and request it. i've heard of plenty of guys getting in on these deals, and then sliding the tech actually working on the car a little cash to get the job done right.