Who has the most powerful?

Hey guys, im just curious to who has the most powerful 2.0 wrx, without nos in the twin cities area, i have a little project this march 12th - march 15th and i want to see who else will have some big numbers out of the 2.0

 

jason maybe?

 

sorry i should have added, i wanna know what kind of numbers they are pushing

 

I think WRX1 or IGOFAST have pretty fast WRX's also....

 

yeah. i was guessing they are all around the same, but i didnt know exact dyno numbers from russ or igofast

 

jason dyno'd 271 on a mustang.

 

There are more HP WRX's than mine. I'm just not willing to go to a FMIC or loose too much down low for the big powa.

 

well, if you know any that are over 330 to the wheels on a dynapack 5000, let me know, thats what my tuner said i should be on pump gas

 

I have a feeling Imprezme02 is looking for a challenge...

 

my car is also stored, and torn apart right now, i have a Deadbolt 18G on order, and all the goodies that go along with it, $8k project done before rock falls

 

^^that I wanna see! Please join us when some of MNSubaru makes a small event to go to the Rock for a day.

 

well im for sure goin to opening day at rock falls, i wanted to come out this year with a bang, hopefully not my motor hahah, tranny will be fine, anyways, if u guys have ur own event, let me know ahead of time because ill have to try and get off both my jobs, if u guys are interested in what i have goin in march just lemme know

 

I'm dropping a VF22 on my car next month (turbo is on 1-2 month shipping from Japan). With its current turbo it will do a low 12 second 1/2 mile.
No clue on HP. I'm shooting for 300AWHP + and a high 11second quarter mile. That is what Turbosubysteve did on the same car/same engine/same turbo... (his was 11.8something secs, on an STI tranny though.)

 

That's even good for 1/4 mile.

 

oh and i also meant none STI 2.0, hehe, talkin good old USDM version 2.0, oh and by the way the vf22 is a bad choice do sum research on it, anyways,


im actually getting the car tuned by Tuning Factory(formaly GodSpeed) in michigan, they are building me a tranny right now, and im buying all my parts through them so they basically install and tune for free, im gettin an amazing deal, all in all i should be paying over 12k but im at 8k, injectors, pe800cc, gives me room to play with if i decide to rebuild the motor and go with a bigger turbo

 

Lol... Bad choice, eh?
Yeah, I did "sum" research on it... I figured a 11.8 second 1/4 mile was good enough for me. The person I mentioned running this turbo sold me on the idea. And for $360 shipped I'd like to see a better cost/benefit option for my car.
BTW paying 12thousand dollars to beef up a USDM 2L is stupid. You could drop a V7 STI block in there for a little less than half that price and have a semi closed block with all forged internals, sodium filled valves, a factory 8250RPM redline, better cams, AVCS, twin scroll headers and turbo, far better flowing heads and an all around engine that will put out STOCK what a stage 4 USDM WRX will struggle to make. The V7 block is designed to run its 100 000mile life cycle at power levels that will pretty much guarantee failure on a US-Spec WRX engine.

 

this forum always has opposite opinions as the experts and HIGH hp cars, PE makes the nicest injectors, not only spray evenly, they have a wider spray, and if ur jsut going cost the vf22 is worth it ya, i could get 10,0000000 cc injectors and have the car run like a champ, u can tune them........ ya i could drop a 2.0 sti motor and have way less hp, for same price, im talking 330ish hp to the wheels, no sti motor comes with that stock thats laughable, i have talked to alot of experts on out motors, say i can EASILY run my setup with no problems, as long as im not HARD on the car, the only thing that might happen if i do get hard on is holes in the piston or the valves going out, thats all ive heard, and i plan on building the motor in the future for a bigger turbo

 

What I would do is get a 2.5L block, throw some forged pistons in there and run wrx heads. GT35R anybody???

 

thats what I would do also

 

There is a minimum amount of time that an injector can be open for, if you have huge injectors, eventually you get to the point where it is impossible to lean them out enough. That size though, depends on the injector's activation method(peak and hold versus saturated), the actual drivers in the ECU, number of cylinders, fuel pressure, etc.

Too wide of a spray pattern might cause fuel to puddle on intake port cylinder walls.

I would think most experts would consider burning up valves and putting holes in pistons to be major problems. Broken valve and pistons parts can end up taking out your turbo. Enough damage to a piston can cause it to take a trip through the side of a block also.

 

If I had 8k to spend on my motor (damn, if I had 2k), the USDM 2.0 would be one of the first things to go.

 

I dont think PE's area as bad as some seem to think. Ask Aaron about his, I dont think he has a idle issue, nor does Rich. And Matt was having issues because he is running a different fuel system than all the other STi owners so thats a different story. Only thing that steared me away from PE was the price tag, otherwise I would have got them.

 

also, I wouldn't blame godspeed too much for the setup.

He just puts into cars what customers want and then tunes them to the best of his ability.

 

Good point, Russ. I didnt take into consideration that this was for a WRX.

 

someone was talkin **** about me not doin the work on my car myself??? i HAD planned on doing this, but i have this little thing called 2 jobs, 70 hours a week, i dont have time to do that, and i dont want someone tuning my car out of a garage, ive heard many horror stories, and you guys assume that i will be running my car hard as hell daily to burn sumtin up in the motor, not true, i dont beat on the car, or plan on doing it, i dont get some of you guys, at all, people at firestone told me the vf22 was a very bad choice when i was goin to go with it, everything im gettin for the car is high quality, and im gettin very effecient products, the 18g is a very nice turbo, and im upgrading to a very nice intercooler and new radiator to help cool everything down, again im not gonna be gunnin it at every stop light and everytime i see another ricer, i was over that 2 years ago, the car gets driven on weekends, thats it....

also i dont plan on maxing the turbo at all, im doing a very conservative tune, maybe 19lbs max, im not retarded

 

and that 8 grand isnt just the turbo

RA Gearset Tranny
Exedy Clutch
ACT Flywheel
Helix Up pipe
Godspeed Downpipe
Samco Turbo Inlet Hose
APS Top Mount
APS Air Splitter
STI Hood Scoop
Deadbolt 18G turbo
PE800cc Injectors
Walbro Fuel Pump
Koyo Radiator
Samco Radiator hoses
And a tune

think it actually comes out to be $7200 installed

 

mang i guess i'll be the slowest in minnesota...

anyone care to donate to the hercules-go-fast-foundation...

 

I would love to hercules, but I am to busy donating to the 02blubru go faster fun.

 

either way, you guys got me paranoid now, i might end up going with the Super16G, and STI pinks, then just pay the car off, move out, THEN get a new motor, prolly axis stage 3, depending on if i win the lottery, stage 6, i duno, this whole project has been really stressful for me, i remember i just wanted a vf22 and injectors and a tune

 

I do not know all the specs of all the options out there, but I do know, it is your car and your money, so it is up to you in the end. I know the guys on here have not led me the wrong way yet.

 

that's fine... i think they're more than willing to support my car before yours... you've had so much shizz done to that car by the previous owner, it's not even funny. all you did to it was repaint the bish...

 

well, just got done talking with deadbolt, dan from tuning factory and 4 people with 18G, and 20G turbos on STOCK MOTOR and STOCK TRANNIES, with the ej20, kinda odd how each of them have had their setup for over 2 years and have had absolutly no problems, the one with the 20g is running 22 psi daily driving and he said he beats on it occasionaly, the others are all running 18-19psi on their 18G's, they said they have only heard of messin up the motor if it was tuned poorly, deadbolt used the 18G on their project car, stock motor, RA gear tranny, they also said the 18G is a fine turbo for the car, and they have seen very few blow anything in the motor, and the ones that have, have been tuned by either the owner of the car in thier garage, or a poor shop with bad engine management, then dan from tuning factory said hes never heard of an 18G blowing anything in the motor that he has tuned personally, he did say hes seen many trannies blow from it tho, but hes building me a tranny so thats taken care of, so you 2 that were implying i was stupid for my setup, i guess we will just see how long my motor lasts wont we

 

quick question. if you are spending 8 grand on upgrades to your wrx...it would seem to make more sense, financially, to just buy an sti.

 

oh and yes, i could build an STI motor, or just get a new bottom end on my motor and get a stage 1 or 2 valvetrain, that would be about 6-7 grand, if i have it done proffesionally(i dont trust anyone workin on the engineof my car, not even myself), that would put me at around 260awhp with the stock turbo, that pretty much puts me just upping the boost on my stock turbo and gettin a couple bolt ons and a tune for $2,000, good idea....... i know its unreliable with the stock turbo im just throwin it out there, so now im at 6-7 grand into just the motor with low gains, because most motor swaps do not come with the turbo, i would still need to buy a bigger turbo, intercooler, and all the supporting mods to get anything out of the motor, sure i could go alot higher then my ej20 right now, but i dont want to, im goin to be more than happy with 300-330 whp at 19psi on pump gas

 

no, i allready have money into my wrx, and i love the car, i could buy a used STI for 24-27k and not know how it was driven in the past, and pay alot more money on insurance, i like the idea of making the car unique, an STI comes from the factory pretty quick, boring to me, ill have about the same $$ invested into my car as a brand new STI is MSRP, but will also have over 100 more hp at the flywheel, and run around 1 second faster in the 1/4 mile, i have thought of the STI in the past, but my car is my baby, i want to stick with this one

 

you also have to remember, in that 8 grand, is a new tranny clutch and flywheel, also new tires, the only performance upgrade hp wise, is a turbo downpipe injectors and intercooler.... everything else is just to make the car run better and more effeicient, so im really only spending about $3000 for the turbo injectors downpipe and a tune......

 

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