Pretty sure you geeks and nerds know about the beta being released on the net (built 7000). If you did install it, what do you think of 7? Still feels like Vista to me.
i still have yet to get windows 7 beta...i dunno if i want to...cause im afraid of the process hit ill get + bugs
actually 7 seems to be more efficient resources wise than vista. at least that has been my experience so far with it. Yes it does have a lot of bugs.
The whole point of Windows 7 is to fix the memory/process whoring of Vista and XP. Windows 7 is supposed to be the Linux killer for netbook computers. Reason being, it uses very little resources, is quick to install and setup, can run on some pretty ancient hardware by today's standards, and with alot less RAM than Vista Requires.
In fact, if they get it to run DirectX10, I'll skip Vista and go straight to Windows 7 for my next OS. Lightweight OS that allows me to play the latest games...yes please.
well we can only hope but we never know how microsoft moves until the end i really like the idea of a lightweight OS though...
I doubt they'd fill it with bloatware if they are touting it as their new light OS for netbooks...would kindof defeat the purpose altogether. It'd be the equivalent of spending the last 5 years developing a business plan for a vegan/vegetarian restaurant, then opening it with an all meat buffet.
Will it run on a VM? I may try it out then. I haven't had any issues with Vista, and I have the 64-bit version to cock things up even more. I verified there were drivers for everything before putting that version on. It took a small amount of getting used to it, maybe two months, but I'd say it was about the same learning curve from 2k to XP when I switched. But then I have loads of system resources so it's hard for me to complain.
Vista is a huge failure, Mojave Experiment?? When you have to trick your consumers into buying your product, that is a huge failure the way I see it. 7 will be the next big OS from MS and will take over where XP left off. More meat please
I hope that 7 can live up to the hype... A friend of mine is running 7 now, but he's getting bombarded with bugs
All Windows betas that I can recall (and I've seen them all since 3.0) were very buggy. They've usually done pretty well at fixing most of them up for the release version. The lower resource usage of 7 is promising. That's one of my main beefs with Vista.
7 is just a rebranding of Vista. It's being built on mostly the same code as Vista, and will mostly be just a facelift with some feature tweaks. A slimmed version for laptops would certainly be nice, although Vista's power management is fairly good. With that said, if you're holding off on Vista because of what you've "heard," you're making a mistake. It's a good OS that got hozed by third party companies not creating drivers on time, and by Apples marketing department.
got hosed by poor performance in large files copying over the network, got hosed by wireless not working after hibernation, got hosed by asking the user to approve action modifying anything/everything to the point they mindless click ok, got hosed by requiring 4 gb on a workstation for multitasking "big" apps, got hosed making boot up take 5 minutes, got hosed by offering 6 different versions and so on. I did give it a month. Yes I know some of this was fixed later but why torture yourself. Besides Directx 10 there was no real reason the give it a retry on my home PC. In the corporate environment there are some real security pluses.
i dunno..i think vista is actually really good..i have had NO issues what soever with it..and i do alot of stuff with it...there are some hidden treasures actually to be found in vista as well..like the syncing abilities many many other things...
I agree. I've been using Vista x64 and it's been pretty much rock solid and all my 32bit software works on it just fine. I've had no issues with it, and with SP1 out, it has really made Vista even better IMO. Got to play a little more with 7 and it's pretty decent, but very buggy (duh!). I see what MS is aiming for.
its just the microsoft trend... Good os then bad os then good then bad 98 good, 2000/me bad, xp good, vista bad (but alot better with sp1 and I really like it personally running a 64bit on my laptop with 4gigs ram) so if trend repeats it self, 7 should be a good OS. Fingers cossed i suppose
i have the 32-bit vista and have never had a problem. For me i think its one of the easiest to use after you get use to it. But thats just me.
i think the industry should adopt the idea of a unified shell....it would make things loads easier for us admins instead of having to worry about learning multiple shell's languages we only need to worry about learning one...but i guess that would take a lot of effort to do...but i don't care i one day hope to see this...powershell is close to unix based...i mean if we all went to a unix command shell..it would be MUCH MUCH MUCH more easier...
I was an early adopter of Vista and had endless problems. Things that it was designed to do and marked as such didn't frackin work. But now years later it is a good OS. It still has it's issues. Networking is glitchy even among vista machines, but usable. Also, from what I've read, etc... 7 is supposed to look like vista since people seem to like the overall feel of the OS, but be quite re-worked underneath to be the OS that Vista should have been in the first place, but more advanced to keep up with modern times. Hopefully Vista will drop to one step above ME. I also really hope that they lighten up with the built in DRM. The systems that Vista employs is darn near crippling and takes up so many resources it's not even funny. This is a great article on the costs of Vista and all it's DRM and such. It's pretty long but an extremely good read. http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html
yes i have but i want to have it so that everyone that develops an OS use it under one shell..yknow what i mean? you could consider me the hippy of the computer industry PEACE AND LOVE FOR ALL under one shell!
What are benefits of going with SP1 for Vista? I have the update ready on my computer, I just want to know what they are fixing/modifying/freeing up/ etc. before I download it..
I didn't even like Vista because it kept on crashing and couldn't end a task exactly how I wanted it to(Like in Windows XP) so Windows 7 has got to be worse.
I have my share of problems with Vista, but this statement just seems naive. It's a bit like saying that a Variable Vane Turbo has got to be worse than a fixed version because it doesn't act exactly the same as it's predecessor. And in reality, Vista does a much better job terminating frozen applications (the issue that there are more of them is a different discussion all together) than XP ever did. XP required reboots much more often because it couldn't properly terminate an application.
Yeah, not sure what he's smoking. I had Win2kSP3 running on a PentiumIII box for a few years and it was rock solid 24/7. Lockups were ultra rare, and everything ran flawlessly and quickly. In fact, I think Win2k was one of my favorite MS OS's of all time. 98SE was another good OS, it took everything in me to step up to XP from 98SE. XP is great as of right now, I wont load Vista on anything in the house as long as my XP machines keep running as well as they do.
^ I'm with you. No Vista for me. But, then, I had SO many issues initially that I haven't dared give it another shake since SP1 dropped for it. My experience with it will not be what most users is, though. 2000 was DA BOMB - as long as you didn't want to use a joystick, lol. XP has been serving me VERY well for quite some time. I will continue to use it unless M$ comes out with another "good" OS, and unfortunately, it will likely take a year or two for a new OS to prove itself enough for me to switch wholesale. 98SE was the best at the time - but even at the time it always was lacking quite a bit.
My notebook came with Vista 64 sp1. When I recieved it, I removed it and put XP SP3 without even giving Vista a try. But my hd crashed so I had a spare one. I loaded it up with Vista, just for poops and giggles, and I was surprise how well it was. Plus my notebook runs better on vista than xp (yes, I said that!) My other machine is running XP though, and it does NOT like Vista at all.
meh - Best rule I have ever heard about MS products is "They aren't any good until SP3". I tend to think that they have been getting better, Vista is pretty good after SP1. XP after SP2, W2k after sp3, etc.. I know its popular to rag on M$, and a lot of it is true, but they have it in a design brief to program for the 'next generation' of computers. Vista SP1 also happened to coincide with the release of the new chipsets which helped considerably. If you bought a new computer today with Vista - resource use or graphics problems wouldn't really be an issue. Changing the way that vendors plugged into the OS did not help Vista out either. Accelerating Win7 developement on place of further Vista developement is a pure marketing decision (imho) due to the pounding in the press.
