Wondering what event was going to kick off WWIII?

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    I think we just found it...


    http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/08/08/georgia.ossetia/index.html

    The first thing that struck me was the parallels between this and when Germany went into Poland in 1939. Germany claimed Poland attacked them first. Either way, this is not going to end well at all.
     
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    Damn you, I was just going to post this. I give it a week before Russia brings out the dirty bombs.

    The end is near.
     
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    Yeah, not good at all.
     
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    The DOW is up 2% though right now so investors don't seem to care too much. I'm guessing WWIII is a bit of a stretch. If something isn't done immediately this could get uglier though for sure.

    Edit, also invading breakaway republics is nothing new for Motha Russia.
     
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    Yeah, not WWIII material there.

    Now if Iran suddenly attacked Isreal.................oh ****.
     
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    Come on Brian, are you serious? This is not going to start WW3, ain't going to happen. There's been issues over there for awhile now and yes the UN may step in, but it's certainly not going escalate enough to create more than regional drama
     
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    WWII didn't kick off right away after Germany invaded Poland. It took a while for the US to get involved first by sending supplies to Britain and then we finally got active when Japan bombed us. This could be the start of a snowball in the region. I'm not thinking WWIII now, but the next couple of years could get ugly.
     
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    My Lithuanian teammate concurs with my assessment. He's happy that Russia is at least occupied for a year or so prolonging an invasion of Lithuania lolz.
     
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    that's is speculation at best...and with one hell of a reach....you're fishing.

    :eek4:I'm mucho more worried about IRAN, KOREA, and let's not forget those damn Canadians!!!!:mad:
     
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    YES THE CANADIANS EH
     
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    Attacked by slapshots ftl.
     
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    Or these characters
     
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    It's okay, the LHC is gonna be turned on Sept 10th, so we don't have to worry about this for very much longer :p
     
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    post those shenanigans you found. inspire fear and insanity!
     
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    Yes, a black hole is going to swallow all of Europe.
     
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    I'm not fishing for ****. There are some interesting parallels between 1939 and now. Russia has been flexing their muscles in the last few years, and Putin has been pretty serious about upping their military. Those troops have been in the area for weeks building up, and now they're saying they were attacked? Look at the timing, the same day as the Olympics while world attention is at the other end of the continent? Sure, Iran and Korea are threats but they're AAA ball compared to the thought of Russia getting back into the game.
     
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    http://quegrande.org/countdown/
     
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    ...and Mexico. Many millennia ago they secretly decided to invade the United States and slowly take over. It's a 500 year plan that's well in the works....and we like it!:biggrin:
     
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    All of this sounds like kids in a playground trying to beat each other up.
    See? Nobody ever grows up, we just get older. :p
     
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    agreed..I'm definitely getting older...and quickly
     
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    I figured you'd at least remember what it was like when Germany invaded Poland, you were what, 30 or so? :laugh:
     
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    Can someone explain this for me?
     
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    I posted something about it over on t3hw00t.

    It's pretty freakin crazy and cannot be explained what they are attempting to do, because I don't think they even know.


    For real, check it out
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider

    I don't remember what the chances of it malfunctioning and ending life on earth, but when put into perspective, the odds were shocking.
     
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    India vs Pakistan
     
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    LHC = Latest and greatest particle accelerator. I don't see what everyone is so concerned about...
     
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    @#$%^&^%$#$%^%$#$%:mad:

    I was 32 at the time;):biggrin:
     
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    lmao they know exactly what they are trying to do.

    The LHC is a huge particle accellerator that will be used for physics research.
     
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    lol

    That article that was posted about it : http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/06/30/doomsdaycollider.ap/index.html

    made me think that the scientists that created the collider were getting in over their head.

    ".... some critics fear the Large Hadron Collider could exceed physicists' wildest conjectures: Will it spawn a black hole that could swallow Earth?"

    It made me chuckle
     
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    How does a collider create mass? Isn't mass required (lots of it) for a black hole?
     
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    they are concerned about what will happen when the protons collide
     
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    No, it's caused by density.

    If you take a small object and squish it down to something along the lines of the Planck constant, you may end up with a tiny black hole. The only thing is that the event horizon will be absolutely tiny as well.

    That's what may happen with the LHC -- it may produce enough energy to crush the colliding particles down to a size small enough to create a tiny black hole. Fortunately (well at least they hope!), thanks to Hawking radiation, the black hole that could happen would hopefully evaporate within a new nanoseconds.

    lol.
     
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    You forgot the important part -- they are concerned about what will happen when the protons collide at the energy levels generated by the collider.

    Scientists have been smashing protons for years. :biggrin:
     
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    The thing about WWII, is that we knew we were going to be bombed. And we sat there, waited, and allowed it to happen. We WANTED to go to war. We just needed to be provoked in order to gain the support of the American people. Sounds like 9/11 and Iraq ;) :ugh:

    ..money, money, money, money...

    But yeah...this will probably settle down pretty quick. I can't see the US getting involved unless we were "provoked" again. :roll:
     
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    The US has been warring for profit since WWI....nothing new there. Our gas companies sold fuel with a special patent to the nazis in WWII so they could conduct bombing runs in England lolz(thank you Standard Oil - see the OT Zeitgeist thread).
     
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    I forgot about all of those people on Hawaii who were expecting the Japanese to pay a social call. My bad.
     
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    Not the civilians. Just our trustworthy leaders. No pain, no gain, right? "Operation Northwoods" anyone? ;)
     
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    I might be wrong, but I think Operation Northwoods came almost 20 years after the start (or end) of WWII. Let me check my calculator here...



    carry the two...



    add the remainder...


    Yup. Between 17 to 23 years (depending on whether you go with 1939 or 1945) later.

    The US was trying to get Japan reined in peacefully. Japan figured they'd go for broke and take out the Pacific fleet. Almost worked, except that they didn't hit the carriers. Yamamoto himself said he could "run wild" for about a year, and if they hadn't gotten the job done then Japan was screwed.
     
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    Yeah, I've read that. Not sure how you came up with concrete evidence of us knowing about it beforehand. Not to mention one small detail. If we wanted to go to war so badly with them why would we let them destroy/severely disable the main striking arm we'd need to use? It was luck on our part that the Enterprise or any of the other carriers weren't in port. Read some of the external links debunking the prior knowledge, there's some very consistent evidence there.

    Glad you know when the Vietnam War was, but I'm not sure what that had to do with the dates I gave. Operation Northwoods was in 1962, that's the date I was using. And I'll be one of the first to agree that the Gulf of Tonkin was suspect at best.

    And yes, we were trying to get Japan to back down peacefully. Usually when you cut off 80% of someones oil they'll at least stop to ponder what you're saying. If they'd have backed down peacefully then things would've been a lot different. Or perhaps not. The idea of the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere was tempting indeed.
     
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    There's evidence on both sides. I've read a bunch of different texts on it. That's why I said make your own conclusions. I just don't trust anyone, and I believe that people are inherently evil. With that being said...anything is possible. Question everything.
     
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    There comes a point to me where too many questions just start distracting from what actually happened. It's always easy to point the finger at whichever conspiracy theory is around because it tidies up the loose ends for us. It takes care of the answers that we want to hear, doesn't matter whether they're true or not. It satisfies the part of us that wants to know what happened.
     
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    1962-72/75 = Vietnam war. 23 years later than WWII. Got it confused with ONW and Cuba at the same time...My bad. Mistype. :-/

    That's why conspiracy theories rock. Cleans everything up for the under-informed :)

    ...and to quote my Information Studies teacher, "Just because it's government information, doesn't mean it's credible."
     
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    I've always considered the Vietnam war to have started around 1960, or even a bit earlier. We'd been involved there since the French were laid siege to in one way or another.
     
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    I would say your information studies teacher is a smart person. To many people take government reports and quote them like they are gospel. Since when after say, 1900 has the government gotten anything right or atleast not botched the majority of something?