WRX sedan suspension in a WRX wagon?

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  1. Dream
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    Need a little guidance here. Brief run down:

    2006 WRX Wagon on stock struts and Prodrive Springs. I want to go back to 100% stock suspension as my struts are in need of replacement.

    I have a full set of 2006 WRX sedan struts/springs but from what I can gather there are a few differences. One being the wagon springs are longer and slightly stiffer. This doesnt really concern me as I still have the stock wagon springs. Second, the mounting flange and where the two strut holes are drilled are different. I would be giving up ~ .5-.7 degrees of neg camber.

    Has anybody done this swap before? Any suggestions as to what I should do?
     
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    Sure, don't wait for me to get back to you on Facebook :p

    You'll be able to use the struts, but you'll be losing the negative camber in the front. You *might* be able to get it within factory specs, but that's about it.
     
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    Haha I thought you were ignoring me :biggrin:
     
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    Oh hell no ;)

    I just wanted to double check before I said anything, it's been a while since I've done any reading on the subject. On a related note, if you can swing a set of D-Specs you should throw those in. They're a great replacement strut, especially if you get a set of Ground Controls or a stiffer aftermarket spring.
     
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    Thanks for the help Brian. I picked up a slightly used set of full wrx suspension for like $50 so I cant really beat that. I drive a lot so I want the ride to be as soft as possible. I think its my old age ;)
     
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    Dream is dreamy.
     
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    That's why they're adjustable, ya crochety old geezer ;)

    I know what you mean though. I too have been wanting a softer ride for my every day driving. 2 more years and I'm going to start looking for my Cadillac...
     
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    agreed :yumyum:
     
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    That is why I love EDFC, change the modes while driving :)

    too bad the coil overs are sitting in a box till spring :(

    OT: the coil overs we have for my wife's 02 wagon are labeled for a Ver.7 STi so some STi suspension DOES work on the WRX.
     
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    I just keep the struts dialed down, I just really want a CTS-V ;)
     
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    If you really must put sedan struts on a wagon, the typical suggestions are: strut spacers for the rear (because you'll have SAS), and for the front, either re-drill the struts for more negative camber or get sedan control arms (which are longer to give you more neg camber).

    ~Dan
     
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    Thanks for the help.

    Question: If im running wagon springs in the sedan strut will I still have "saggy butt"?
     
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    No. The wagon springs (rear only) are taller and stiffer than the sedan and would not cause SAS. The sedan and wagon rear struts are very similar.

    So I should clarify, if you do sedan struts AND springs, then you'll have SAS.

    If you were to do control arms up front, then doing axles, swaybar and endlinks is recommended.

    ~Dan
     
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    Ok, thanks! I think what im going to do is install the sedan struts with the wagon springs and hope that with an alignment I cant get it within oem spec (right Brian? ;)). Crossing my fingers!
     
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    Cool, only thing you'll have to worry about is front camber. You'll be giving up about 0.5-0.7 degs of neg camber. Re-drilling the strut mounting holes (at the knuckle) will be the easiest resolution.

    ~Dan
     
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    Ill look into doing that. Thanks a million for you help! :)
     
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    camber bolts will help with the neg camber issues with the struts. But slotting is always a better option imho.
     
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    There is a negligible loss of camber in the rear using sedan struts on a wagon. Although camber bolts for the rear are a nice thing to have anyway.

    ~Dan
     
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    I was talking about the front loss of neg camber
     
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    Oh... the cars come stock with camber bolts in the front anyway. I was referring to the amount of camber loss, in range of degrees with the camber bolts.

    ~Dan
     
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    I put Tokicos with the stock springs on my 02 wrx wagon and found that the rear camber came in to about -.7 to -.8 from the stock -1.2 or so. That was where I wanted it, so I didn't need the camber bolts I had for that task. However, the camber bolts did get used up front to push the camber out to somewhere between -1.0 and -1.4. Couldn't have got it out there without the camber bolts (in addition to the stock ones).

    Once my car records miraculously reappear I will confirm the front camber numbers. I am very happy with the better driveability of the new alignment settings. More responsive and much less understeer.
     
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    Got everything installed last night, bolted right in no problems. Will probably do an alignment soon. Thanks to Nate and Derek!